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Old Dec 15, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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do subframe connectors really help that much and circle or boxed connectors
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yes..very much. i went with these, along with everything else UMI offers for my car and am VERY happy with the results....

http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=193
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does it make a big difference if they r bolted on or welded in?
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welded is better..less flex. but mine are bolted and still made a huge difference.
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I went with 2 point weld in connectors and they did nothing but lighten my wallet and add weight to the car. I went tubular because they tuck up, are hard to see and I lost no ground clearance. I wouldn't buy again.
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and you can always bolt in and go back and weld later if need be....
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Old Dec 15, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by carbed86fox
do subframe connectors really help that much and circle or boxed connectors
Depends on who you talk to.
IMO no, they don't. I have 3pt bolt in that are welded, they did nothing, but that being said I already fixed the actual problem, the shitty stock shocks.
If you want a solid, stable car that feels planted and well behaved you need good shocks, period.
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i have some lake wood 50 50s in the rear and i just dont like the feeling of how much the drivers side picks up when it hooks i can just feel it twisting even from a roll
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and yeah i wouldnt wanna weld something to my car if it wasnt going to work or not
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
Depends on who you talk to.
IMO no, they don't. I have 3pt bolt in that are welded, they did nothing, but that being said I already fixed the actual problem, the shitty stock shocks.
If you want a solid, stable car that feels planted and well behaved you need good shocks, period.
This is what Sam Strano will also say FWIW.
I have not done SFCs yet. Dont know if I will.
MWC says if you do them make sure they are welded.
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Old Dec 15, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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ya thats what everyone is telling me that they should be welded but i heard the boxed ones will twist
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if you are drag racing, subs are essential...anyone who says different has no idea what they are talking about. just like you said...the drivers side lifts up and twists the car...
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If you say they do nothing, you obviously havent seen creased 1/4 panels that result from flex, which never happens on a car with SFC's
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Originally Posted by Amazin1
yes..very much. i went with these, along with everything else UMI offers for my car and am VERY happy with the results....

http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=193
Subframe connectors are some of the best bang for the buck mods, right up there with gears. Unbelievable difference and a whole different car! And UMI is the ****.
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love mine...UMI 3 point......must have in my book
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Oh, and typically tubular for better ground clearance, and boxed will kill about 1/2" of clearance.. not really that big of a deal, IMO.

3pt is a tad bit more rigid, but 2pt works fine if you're on a budget.. nothing wrong with them though. Still just as effective.

Originally Posted by senicalj4579
This is what Sam Strano will also say FWIW.
I have not done SFCs yet. Dont know if I will.
MWC says if you do them make sure they are welded.
Dude... Seriously........... Do it.. I was reluctant to buy them too, but was floored at the difference.

Originally Posted by JD_AMG
Depends on who you talk to.
IMO no, they don't. I have 3pt bolt in that are welded, they did nothing, but that being said I already fixed the actual problem, the shitty stock shocks.
If you want a solid, stable car that feels planted and well behaved you need good shocks, period.
FWIW: I added my SFC's after my spring/shock install and it was still a night and day difference.

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same here...i lowered my car with eibach springs and tokico's and then i did my subs and i noticed a difference...
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^ I couldn't believe that it even effected braking performance! Un-fricking-believable difference. And before them when I would spin em from a roll, the car was rather unpredictable.. After SFC's, it would spin straight and was much more predictable and was more controllable. Get it loose and a degree or two off center, then just gently crack the wheel over to the other side and she would slide right over and straighten out. Such a difference in control.
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