Front Monroe strut nightmare
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Front Monroe strut nightmare
A few weeks ago I did my lowering springs with Monroe shocks in the rear and Monroe struts in the front. Well driving today my passenger side front strut blew out completely. Scared the crap out of me at 70mph. Also the lowering springs are BMR 1.25 drop. Immediately I took the car to my buddies shop, lifted it up and saw the strut was completely destroyed and destroyed my strut mount too. So I removed all the Monroe shocks off the car boxed them back up and took them all back. Never again. So I took a haul out to summit racing retail store and got KYB agx adjustable shocks to go with the BMR springs. Has anyone had issues with these ? Or will this work out much better. I got them for the front and rear all adjustable.
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I should have got a pic I was so mad it like exploded almost and when it did that the top where the nut is destroyed the mount it wasn't pretty. My buddy immediately took it all apart I made the call and said I'm coming in hot pulled it right into a lift
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when I put Tokicos and Stranos on my car I used new Monroe mounts and moog isolators..
well the Monroe mounts are junk because one nutsert on each side wasnt seated and the bolts dont tighten up...
so I have 3 tightened up bolts and 1 bolt on each side with a 1/4 inch gap ...
pisses me off.
well the Monroe mounts are junk because one nutsert on each side wasnt seated and the bolts dont tighten up...
so I have 3 tightened up bolts and 1 bolt on each side with a 1/4 inch gap ...
pisses me off.
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I went with moog mounts and isolators I'm not taking any more chances. Figured that with BMR springs, kyb adjustable agx ( all corners ) and umi upper control arms and new moog ball joints I should be safer. I loved Monroe for years and my grand prix is sitting on quick struts and there great but this ? I'm paying the extra from now on.
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I have KYB AGX shocks and they are a bit rough. Despite what KYB says about the damping levels, the compression and rebound damping to not seem to increase linearly relative to each other. When you've got the rebound damping stiff enough, the compression damping is too high.
KYB tech support stated the following regard AGX settings:
"For an eight position adjustable product, bump and rebound damping are adjusted together, and the damping force values are approximate to the following:
Factory stiffness is a relative value of 100%
#1 = 95% (5% softer than stock)
#2 = 100% (Stock)
#3 = 107.5% (7.5% stiffer than stock)
#4 = 115% (15% stiffer than stock)
#5 = 143.5% (43.5% stiffer than stock)
#6 = 172% (72% stiffer than stock)
#7 = 197.5% (97.5% stiffer than stock)
#8 = 223% (123% stiffer than stock)"
KYB tech support stated the following regard AGX settings:
"For an eight position adjustable product, bump and rebound damping are adjusted together, and the damping force values are approximate to the following:
Factory stiffness is a relative value of 100%
#1 = 95% (5% softer than stock)
#2 = 100% (Stock)
#3 = 107.5% (7.5% stiffer than stock)
#4 = 115% (15% stiffer than stock)
#5 = 143.5% (43.5% stiffer than stock)
#6 = 172% (72% stiffer than stock)
#7 = 197.5% (97.5% stiffer than stock)
#8 = 223% (123% stiffer than stock)"
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I'd love to do koni or bilstein but they fell out of my price range due to other car modding in my fleet. But this is my first lowered car. Live and learn
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So maybe use a different spring then ? I've just read so many good reviews about the BMR springs which is why I went with those instead of Eibach
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I have KYB AGX shocks and they are a bit rough. Despite what KYB says about the damping levels, the compression and rebound damping to not seem to increase linearly relative to each other. When you've got the rebound damping stiff enough, the compression damping is too high.
KYB tech support stated the following regard AGX settings:
"For an eight position adjustable product, bump and rebound damping are adjusted together, and the damping force values are approximate to the following:
Factory stiffness is a relative value of 100%
#1 = 95% (5% softer than stock)
#2 = 100% (Stock)
#3 = 107.5% (7.5% stiffer than stock)
#4 = 115% (15% stiffer than stock)
#5 = 143.5% (43.5% stiffer than stock)
#6 = 172% (72% stiffer than stock)
#7 = 197.5% (97.5% stiffer than stock)
#8 = 223% (123% stiffer than stock)"
KYB tech support stated the following regard AGX settings:
"For an eight position adjustable product, bump and rebound damping are adjusted together, and the damping force values are approximate to the following:
Factory stiffness is a relative value of 100%
#1 = 95% (5% softer than stock)
#2 = 100% (Stock)
#3 = 107.5% (7.5% stiffer than stock)
#4 = 115% (15% stiffer than stock)
#5 = 143.5% (43.5% stiffer than stock)
#6 = 172% (72% stiffer than stock)
#7 = 197.5% (97.5% stiffer than stock)
#8 = 223% (123% stiffer than stock)"
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Ride quality for me.
Starts out too soft on setting one. If you ramp up to get the compression damping where where you want it, the rebound is still too soft. If you increase even more to get the rebound damping right, the compression is way too stiff. Each step up in setting seems to increase rebound more than compression.
So it's either kind of bouncy, or teeth rattling stiff.
Starts out too soft on setting one. If you ramp up to get the compression damping where where you want it, the rebound is still too soft. If you increase even more to get the rebound damping right, the compression is way too stiff. Each step up in setting seems to increase rebound more than compression.
So it's either kind of bouncy, or teeth rattling stiff.
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I'm in no rush to replace the KYBs. They are by no means, a terrible damper. When I need to, I'll most likely replace them with Koni. Otherwise, I'll be happy with the AGXs for now. The fact they are adjustable could help them work with a variety of springs rates versus a non-adjustable damper. They are going to be a HUGE improvement over the Monroe dampers.