MAN! My ride is ROUGH???
06-06-2005, 01:45 PM
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MAN! My ride is ROUGH??? Ok here is my setup:
Eibach Pro Kit Springs
SLP Subframe Connectors
Hotchkis Strut tower brace
Stock Shocks
Ok was out on the HWY yesterday and it seemed like I was feeling every single bump in the road. Now some of them were rough too and I don't remember my ride quality being that hard with the stock setup. What could it be? Springs? Shocks? Any help would be appreciated! Oh and I have 46000 miles on it if that tells you anything.
Eibach Pro Kit Springs
SLP Subframe Connectors
Hotchkis Strut tower brace
Stock Shocks
Ok was out on the HWY yesterday and it seemed like I was feeling every single bump in the road. Now some of them were rough too and I don't remember my ride quality being that hard with the stock setup. What could it be? Springs? Shocks? Any help would be appreciated! Oh and I have 46000 miles on it if that tells you anything.
06-06-2005, 02:34 PM
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Well... the stock shocks aren't great for use with Eibach pro-kit springs. You really should get a set of shocks that are matched to them... that would probably improve the ride quality some.
Also, keep in mind that lowering springs are going to give you a rougher ride... anytime you stiffen the suspension, the ride will get rougher, you will feel more bumps in the road. That's the price you pay for better handling.
Also, keep in mind that lowering springs are going to give you a rougher ride... anytime you stiffen the suspension, the ride will get rougher, you will feel more bumps in the road. That's the price you pay for better handling.
06-06-2005, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tranzor_Z28
Well... the stock shocks aren't great for use with Eibach pro-kit springs. You really should get a set of shocks that are matched to them... that would probably improve the ride quality some.
Also, keep in mind that lowering springs are going to give you a rougher ride... anytime you stiffen the suspension, the ride will get rougher, you will feel more bumps in the road. That's the price you pay for better handling.
Also, keep in mind that lowering springs are going to give you a rougher ride... anytime you stiffen the suspension, the ride will get rougher, you will feel more bumps in the road. That's the price you pay for better handling.
But I bet it corners like a bat outta hell!
06-06-2005, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BitViper
Yeah what he said.....
But I bet it corners like a bat outta hell!
But I bet it corners like a bat outta hell!
Any suggestions on what kind of shocks.....not to expensive!
06-06-2005, 08:44 PM
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You have installed stiff subframe connectors and tower brace. This means your chassis transmits vibration more efficently. It is not lost in the flex. Combined with the stiffer spring and you get a harsher ride. In fact, even if you had left the stock springs in you would still feel a hasher ride. I agree with the others and you should get better shocks. If you can aford yellow Koni's, they will do the trick. The next choice would be Bilstein. After that I would say KYB. Anyway, who cares about the ride quality, make it handle and enjoy.
Thanks JA
You have installed stiff subframe connectors and tower brace. This means your chassis transmits vibration more efficently. It is not lost in the flex. Combined with the stiffer spring and you get a harsher ride. In fact, even if you had left the stock springs in you would still feel a hasher ride. I agree with the others and you should get better shocks. If you can aford yellow Koni's, they will do the trick. The next choice would be Bilstein. After that I would say KYB. Anyway, who cares about the ride quality, make it handle and enjoy.
Thanks JA
06-06-2005, 10:42 PM
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Launching!
also look at your bump stops see how close you are to them with the new springs might want to trim them up a bit ..i need to do something with mine also I have pro-kit but added the bilstien shocks sfc so I know what your feeling!!
06-06-2005, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 02blackSS
It sure does!
Any suggestions on what kind of shocks.....not to expensive!
Any suggestions on what kind of shocks.....not to expensive!
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06-07-2005, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Tranzor_Z28
Well... the stock shocks aren't great for use with Eibach pro-kit springs. You really should get a set of shocks that are matched to them... that would probably improve the ride quality some.
Also, keep in mind that lowering springs are going to give you a rougher ride... anytime you stiffen the suspension, the ride will get rougher, you will feel more bumps in the road. That's the price you pay for better handling.
Also, keep in mind that lowering springs are going to give you a rougher ride... anytime you stiffen the suspension, the ride will get rougher, you will feel more bumps in the road. That's the price you pay for better handling.
Eibach springs are not significantly stiffer than stock, just shorter.
The pounding being felt is probably the rear sagging and the car riding on or close to the bump stops, yielding very little suspension travel. How much gear do you have in the very back? Even 50 lbs will significantly affect rear suspension travel.
Either remove the bump stops, remove any gear stored in the very back or get stiffer/taller rear springs.
For a daily driver, Bilstein shocks should work just fine. Probably be the last shock you will ever buy for the car ...
06-07-2005, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
Eibach springs are not significantly stiffer than stock, just shorter.
The pounding being felt is probably the rear sagging and the car riding on or close to the bump stops, yielding very little suspension travel. How much gear do you have in the very back? Even 50 lbs will significantly affect rear suspension travel.
The pounding being felt is probably the rear sagging and the car riding on or close to the bump stops, yielding very little suspension travel. How much gear do you have in the very back? Even 50 lbs will significantly affect rear suspension travel.
Originally Posted by mitchntx
Either remove the bump stops, remove any gear stored in the very back or get stiffer/taller rear springs.
06-07-2005, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 02blackSS
I don't have any gear in the back, however the back is where I am feeling most of the bumps. I don't notice them too much on the front.
What type of taller springs?
What type of taller springs?
06-07-2005, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 02blackSS
What type of taller springs?
A taller spring ...
http://www.pitstopusa.com/SearchResu...ategoryID=4562
Shims to space up what you have ...
http://www.pitstopusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=23987
http://www.pitstopusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=23986
These go between the spring and perch so the effective rate of the spring is not altered ...
06-07-2005, 05:20 PM
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That is the price you pay for a good supension. My question is on the tires. I have 45 series and a rough ride. I do not believe the suspension is causing all of this. Low profile tires have no sidewall to absorb any road noise, road bumps, and things in general
Feels like your teeth are going to fall out sometimes...
Feels like your teeth are going to fall out sometimes...
06-07-2005, 09:06 PM
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There are several things that effect the ride quality.
Tire construction (GY GSC are horribly stiff and will never ride smooth)
Tire pressure.
Ride height.
Bumpstops being used.
Spring rates.
Shock valving.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/329705-what-will-i-notice-most-shock-question.html
Since you already know that the rear seems to be the rougher riding end, lets focus on that. Check your tires pressures. Much above 28psi cold tends to wear the centers, reduce grip and make it ride rougher than neccesary.
The shock stocks are a real problem, first they allow the rear suspension to travel too much and second they don't soak up the bumps much at all. Then they also are bad for handling and controlling the body motions etc...
In your case, I bet you are mainly feeling the bumpstop contact. Check tire pressures first, then you might try adding a metal spacer to lift the rear a little as an experiment. I mention it here:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/323509-how-make-back-higher-after-lowering-car.html
It's cheap and easy to lift the rear. Don't worry about the looks for now, just get the backend up so that you have some more suspension travel. See if that helps, if so, it means you are hitting the factory bumpstops pretty hard. You can leave the spacers in or just lift the rear enough to look good without lifting too much. Or add some Bilstein shocks to the rear only. They run about $85 each I think and are easy to install. The rear shocks will help the car a lot.
Hope that helps.
Tire construction (GY GSC are horribly stiff and will never ride smooth)
Tire pressure.
Ride height.
Bumpstops being used.
Spring rates.
Shock valving.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/329705-what-will-i-notice-most-shock-question.html
Since you already know that the rear seems to be the rougher riding end, lets focus on that. Check your tires pressures. Much above 28psi cold tends to wear the centers, reduce grip and make it ride rougher than neccesary.
The shock stocks are a real problem, first they allow the rear suspension to travel too much and second they don't soak up the bumps much at all. Then they also are bad for handling and controlling the body motions etc...
In your case, I bet you are mainly feeling the bumpstop contact. Check tire pressures first, then you might try adding a metal spacer to lift the rear a little as an experiment. I mention it here:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/323509-how-make-back-higher-after-lowering-car.html
It's cheap and easy to lift the rear. Don't worry about the looks for now, just get the backend up so that you have some more suspension travel. See if that helps, if so, it means you are hitting the factory bumpstops pretty hard. You can leave the spacers in or just lift the rear enough to look good without lifting too much. Or add some Bilstein shocks to the rear only. They run about $85 each I think and are easy to install. The rear shocks will help the car a lot.
Hope that helps.
