Can you run 11 to 1 Compression in So. Cal?
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With the type of gas we have here, is it a good idea to run that compression in a stock bottom end with CNC ported heads and Torquer v2 cam?
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My car was setup to run on 93 "east coast" gas. I've had to run a shot of octane booster in each tank of gas to keep it from pinging.
I'm sure it could be tuned around it, but I'm not planning to be out here much longer (besides I don't mind running good gas for the track
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I'm sure it could be tuned around it, but I'm not planning to be out here much longer (besides I don't mind running good gas for the track
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Originally Posted by RyneZ06
my old heads cam motor had around 11.2:1 compression and ran fine on 91 octane, proper timing table and a/f ratio, should be fine
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I run 21* timing, 11.8:1 static compression, ~9.0:1 dynamic compression, ~95 octane. ![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
Lots of good threads in the tech section about timing.
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Lots of good threads in the tech section about timing.
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Its all about the dynamic compression. As long as you keep it under 8.5 you should be able to run 91 octane fine, at least from what I've read. Timing is really dependant on your setup and heads. LS6 heads you prolly wouldn't want to run that much timing, worse heads or larger displacement yeah, you prolly would want to run that high.
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What DCR?
Originally Posted by Rick@Synergy
We have a car that runs 12:1 CPR on 91 octane, and another one that we are doing that will be 12.5:1+ on 91 also. Its possible.
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Yes, with the right cam you can go pretty high with the compression, but I would shy away from anything higher than high 11's to 12.0 as the cranking compression gets too high and you end up with pinging issues and you need to neuter the timing back too much. Remember you have to use a good sized cam to get away with this, or you will be taking your engine apart I assure you! I honestly think you need not run that much if you have a really good set of heads and intake on the engine as this will increase your dynamic compression, which makes much more power than static on pump gas.
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Originally Posted by Race-Prep
Yes, with the right cam you can go pretty high with the compression, but I would shy away from anything higher than high 11's to 12.0 as the cranking compression gets too high and you end up with pinging issues and you need to neuter the timing back too much. Remember you have to use a good sized cam to get away with this, or you will be taking your engine apart I assure you! I honestly think you need not run that much if you have a really good set of heads and intake on the engine as this will increase your dynamic compression, which makes much more power than static on pump gas.
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I'm just looking for somewhere close to 11 to 1 compression using said cam and some 241 CNCed head with 2.04 and 1.57 valves, these heads are unmilled which would give me about 10 t 1 compression if I use a standard MLS gasket. But if I mill then let's say .030" and use a .040" Cometic gasket and a .037" quench then that would get me close to the desired compression, what would my Dynamic compression be?
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Originally Posted by Tri5Nerd
When you say a good size cam are you talking about cams with bigger duration and lift than the Torquer 2?
I'm just looking for somewhere close to 11 to 1 compression using said cam and some 241 CNCed head with 2.04 and 1.57 valves, these heads are unmilled which would give me about 10 t 1 compression if I use a standard MLS gasket. But if I mill then let's say .030" and use a .040" Cometic gasket and a .037" quench then that would get me close to the desired compression, what would my Dynamic compression be?
I'm just looking for somewhere close to 11 to 1 compression using said cam and some 241 CNCed head with 2.04 and 1.57 valves, these heads are unmilled which would give me about 10 t 1 compression if I use a standard MLS gasket. But if I mill then let's say .030" and use a .040" Cometic gasket and a .037" quench then that would get me close to the desired compression, what would my Dynamic compression be?
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Originally Posted by NICKZ28
Just mill .030 off 5.3L heads and use stock thickness head gaskets. You'll be right there.
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Originally Posted by Tri5Nerd
I have 5.7L heads (241 casting), not 5.3L would that make a difference?