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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 01:35 PM
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I have had good success with the meguiar's microfiber cutting pad and M105 to remove the deeper swirls on hard clear. Also you may be chasing imperfections deeper into the clear that may require more work than just a pad and compound.
here is a pic if anyone can recommend, I was using M105, MF cutting disc, and rupes 21. Many of the swirls are gone, its the deeper RIDS that I want gone, these are the ones that really noticeable.

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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 05:26 PM
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here is a pic if anyone can recommend, I was using M105, MF cutting disc, and rupes 21. Many of the swirls are gone, its the deeper RIDS that I want gone, these are the ones that really noticeable.

105 should be able to remove them, just might take a LITTLE more time. 105 is an extremely capable compound. 101 has key improvements, but assuming those RIDS are removable, 105 should be able to get them out.

What speed are you running?
How are you prepping the pad?
How much pressure are you applying?
Have you done the washer mod to your Rupes?

Also what MF towels are you using?

I have lots of M101....what do you have to trade?
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
105 should be able to remove them, just might take a LITTLE more time. 105 is an extremely capable compound. 101 has key improvements, but assuming those RIDS are removable, 105 should be able to get them out.

What speed are you running?
How are you prepping the pad?
How much pressure are you applying?
Have you done the washer mod to your Rupes?

Also what MF towels are you using?

I have lots of M101....what do you have to trade?
I am running on speed 4, how I prep it is basically prime it how mike phillips does then just use a few dots, my first pass I did no pressure, second pass I tried to apply pressure. I have not done the washer mod, would you recommend it? For towels I been using these

for trade or if you wanted to sell like 5 oz or enough to do a z06.
but I have all kinds of stuff, I will try to make a list
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 01:08 PM
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CamaroSS27
I am running on speed 4, how I prep it is basically prime it how mike phillips does then just use a few dots, my first pass I did no pressure, second pass I tried to apply pressure. I have not done the washer mod, would you recommend it? For towels I been using these

for trade or if you wanted to sell like 5 oz or enough to do a z06.
but I have all kinds of stuff, I will try to make a list
I'm not familiar with the rupes but have you tried increasing the speed but still maintaing some pressure.
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CamaroSS27
I am running on speed 4, how I prep it is basically prime it how mike phillips does then just use a few dots, my first pass I did no pressure, second pass I tried to apply pressure. I have not done the washer mod, would you recommend it? For towels I been using these

for trade or if you wanted to sell like 5 oz or enough to do a z06.
but I have all kinds of stuff, I will try to make a list
1. Do the washer mod, it makes a big difference.
2. If using a PC speed five, if using a Rupes speed 4 or 3, the extra stroke makes a big difference, (yeah I said it, it needed to be said)
3. For the first "pass", is basically just to help distribute product over the area, its quick.
4. You want to use moderate pressure, i know that means different things to different people. It was a little easier to explain when using a PC but not so much with the Rupes, IMO anyway.
5. Prime the MF pad good, four-five quarter drops then evenly spread it out over the pad, then blow it out lightly with compressed air. What you want is the same amount of product on all the MF fingers on the pad but not loaded up. Priming it this way takes care of both.
6. Use D300 when using M105. M105 doesn't dust nearly as bad when using a MF pad but it still does. D300 extents the working time of M105 and decreases the amount of dust. Try using 75%/25% M105/D300 and maybe to go 50/50 if using the Rupes.
7. Make sure you blow the MF pad out between after each section and after every panel push the MF pad into a MF towel. This helps pull some of the compound that's worked its way into the pad, to the top where it can be removed via compressed air or a pad brush.

8. Probably the most important. Realize there are some scratches you just can't get out. You only have so much clear coat. Unless you have a PTG and can accurately monitor the thickness of your clear, LEAVE it. Because what you will end up doing is repainting that panel when you burn through the clear and you will.

I hope this helps some.
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 08:26 PM
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M105's work time is short. Like 30-45 seconds short, it's better w/ D300 but not as much with the Rupes.
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 09:07 PM
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I'm sure this has been covered but this thread is massive. I'm going to be painting my car next week we have been using the 3M three step after wet sand, but after seeing the things u can do to paint what would be your recommended process? The car is going from pewter to black.
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Throw the 3M stuff out. There are much better products out there. 3M products cover and hide a lot of defects. It will look good until you wash the car three or four times.

Last week I had a friend of of a friend asked me about what products I use. He is a painter at the largest body shop in the city. He said he has used 3M products for years and hates it because of the reasons I previously mentioned.

Depending on what type of clear you are using, rather it be cheap stuff or high solids, how fine of grit you are going to use to wetsand, if you are going to leave some orange peel or make it gut slick will help decide what compounds to use.

Personally, I would look at the Meguiars line, M100, M101, M105 and M205. Those products are designed to be used for what you are wanting. They won't hide or cover defects.

Hope this helps some.
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
105 should be able to remove them, just might take a LITTLE more time. 105 is an extremely capable compound. 101 has key improvements, but assuming those RIDS are removable, 105 should be able to get them out.

What speed are you running?
How are you prepping the pad?
How much pressure are you applying?
Have you done the washer mod to your Rupes?

Also what MF towels are you using?

I have lots of M101....what do you have to trade?
Did you ever get these RIDS out? I just did my camaro using meguiar's microfiber cutting pads and D300 and I still have some areas similar to the photo you posted. I was thinking of trying out the meguiar's xtra cut microfiber pads and see if that works.

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I'm sure this has been covered but this thread is massive. I'm going to be painting my car next week we have been using the 3M three step after wet sand, but after seeing the things u can do to paint what would be your recommended process? The car is going from pewter to black.
I would recommend you do not use any wax or sealant on the paint until the paint has had time to cure. Typically 30 days is ok but it can be up to 90 days. In that time if you want the car to look polished you can use a glaze like meguiar's M7 or 3M's glaze. It won't last that long but it will still make your car look nice until that time has passed. Then you can wax/seal it.

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Throw the 3M stuff out. There are much better products out there. 3M products cover and hide a lot of defects. It will look good until you wash the car three or four times.

Last week I had a friend of of a friend asked me about what products I use. He is a painter at the largest body shop in the city. He said he has used 3M products for years and hates it because of the reasons I previously mentioned.

Depending on what type of clear you are using, rather it be cheap stuff or high solids, how fine of grit you are going to use to wetsand, if you are going to leave some orange peel or make it gut slick will help decide what compounds to use.

Personally, I would look at the Meguiars line, M100, M101, M105 and M205. Those products are designed to be used for what you are wanting. They won't hide or cover defects.

Hope this helps some.
I agree with using any one of these meguiar's products. They will help in removing the wetsanding marks and other defects. Again be sure to let the paint cure.
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I have a PC 7274 and can't find a good pad kit or what pads to purchase to redo my entire car. Fairly new to detailing. any help with a pad kit that would be great would help a lot. thanks!
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I have a PC 7274 and can't find a good pad kit or what pads to purchase to redo my entire car. Fairly new to detailing. any help with a pad kit that would be great would help a lot. thanks!
That is a really broad question and to get an answer in this thread you are doing to have to do some reading. I will say it's in the first 10 pages and has been covered and discussed many times after that.
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Old Jun 30, 2014 | 02:07 AM
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I have a PC 7274 and can't find a good pad kit or what pads to purchase to redo my entire car. Fairly new to detailing. any help with a pad kit that would be great would help a lot. thanks!
The main pads I use are: Lake Country - orange, white, black, tangerine
Meguiars MF cutting and finishing discs
Buff and Shine MF pads and black foam
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 09:26 PM
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what wax or sealant do you recommend for florida sun?
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what wax or sealant do you recommend for florida sun?
Florida isn't any harsher than the majority of the country. Pick a good sealant like Blackfire Wet Diamond, CarPro Reload, or Sonax Net Shield and just repeat every 3-4 months.

However, you'll get stronger protection and longer protection from a coating. Look into licensed installers for CQuartz Finest or Opti-Coat Pro. The CQ Finest installers are a little more researched by CarPro before being given permission to use their best product. Can't say the same for the other. But both are good products.

If you want to get a coating but don't want to spend as much, look into having CQuartz UK or Opti-Coat 2.0 installed professionally. I wouldn't recommend installing yourself unless you have extensive paint correction and coating experience.
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Any specific soap/wax for hawaiis salty air? I got a tin of Meguiars #16, that good?

Things rust faster here.
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Any specific soap/wax for hawaiis salty air? I got a tin of Meguiars #16, that good?

Things rust faster here.
Megs #16 is a fantastic wax and hard to get ahold of. That will give great protection and shine to your paint. Use only a little....TOUCH the applicator to the wax and then spread on the paint. Do not wipe the applicator into the wax to get a bunch of it....you'll use about 20x too much.

As for rust....that has nothing to do with your paint. Only exposed bare metal will rust.
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
Megs #16 is a fantastic wax and hard to get ahold of. That will give great protection and shine to your paint. Use only a little....TOUCH the applicator to the wax and then spread on the paint. Do not wipe the applicator into the wax to get a bunch of it....you'll use about 20x too much.

As for rust....that has nothing to do with your paint. Only exposed bare metal will rust.
Cool, are chemical guys wash mitt good? Also I dont have a wax applicator pad, anything special to buy?

Looking at this one
Amazon.com: Chemical Guys MIC_493 - Chenille Microfiber Premium Scratch-Free Wash Mitt: Automotive Amazon.com: Chemical Guys MIC_493 - Chenille Microfiber Premium Scratch-Free Wash Mitt: Automotive

I like to get my stuff off amazon cause free shipping on a lot of stuff where autogeek is like $50

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Cool, are chemical guys wash mitt good? Also I dont have a wax applicator pad, anything special to buy?

Looking at this one
Amazon.com: Chemical Guys MIC_493 - Chenille Microfiber Premium Scratch-Free Wash Mitt: Automotive

I like to get my stuff off amazon cause free shipping on a lot of stuff where autogeek is like $50

I wouldn't use that mitt on my car or anyone elses.

This is what I use:

http://www.carpro-us.com/microfiber-...s-incredimitt/
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I wouldn't use that mitt on my car or anyone elses.

This is what I use:

http://www.carpro-us.com/microfiber-...s-incredimitt/
Anything like this on amazon? Shipping to hawaii limits my options.

What about wax applicator pads?

Thanks
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