Appearance & Detailing Interior & Exterior Appearance Modifications

Ask a Professional Detailer

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 12:43 AM
  #1601  
BigDaddyBry's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,896
Likes: 1
From: Ridgecrest, CA
Default

Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
Are you calling me lazy and wasting people's time?
I do not know how you could deduce that from my post. I do not think that at all, I think you are providing a great service.

I was commenting on the people who use the excuse "I don't have the time to read through all the pages, so let me ask..." while pointing out the thread itself has a search function and is much longer because of repetitive questions.
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 07:03 AM
  #1602  
sam95transam's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
From: Raleigh, NC
Default

Originally Posted by sam95transam
Alot of what your $500 budget post listed:
PC Kit from AutoGeek
Meg. shampoo
Wash Mitt
3pk of the cobra waffle weave MF towels (really good deal, basically if you buy 2 you get 1 free!)
BFWD 16oz for starters
stoner invisible glass

How many WW drying towels do you use in one drying session on an Fbody? I figured it was at least 2.

Also, how many times could I do my T/A with the 16 oz. bottle?

Sorry if these have been asked before, it took me a week after work reading through the first 60 pages so I could've forgotten something.
Going back to these two questions I have one to add...

Should I wash my MF/drying towels before I use them on my car or does it matter?
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 08:47 AM
  #1603  
JUSTINSWS6's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by sam95transam
Going back to these two questions I have one to add...

Should I wash my MF/drying towels before I use them on my car or does it matter?
I do all my drying towel in the wash then in the dryer. Then do my wash mitts seperate and the same way
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 09:43 AM
  #1604  
idle's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 390
Likes: 0
From: Indianapolis, IN
Default

Originally Posted by Blkdvll
Being a professional detailer for the last 7 years myself, and being no one answered your question....I'll help you out.

1. After a nice mitt wash their are several ways you can go about drying your car. My perferred method - even with hard water - is to use a California Water Blade to remove the bulk of the water followed by an air dryer (leaf blower). HOWEVER, make sure your water blade is clean before every use by running it under water and running your finger over the blade to remove any dust/dirt/debris. I use a Craftsman vacuum with detachable blower to air dry the vehicles. Afterwards, if you have any waterspots/streaks you can come back around with a micro and quick detail spray to touch up.

2. There really isn't any solid answer to this. There are so many variables including how you maintain it, how its stored, the weather in your area, and the products you use just to name a few. Claying should usually only be done when needed (you'll feel it in the paint), as you're running a brick across the paint - again it comes down to how the car is maintained as far as a timeline goes. Wax/Seal are essentially the same thing. Waxing usually referes to using a natural product (think Carnuaba), where as Sealing usually referes to a synthetic wax. However, from what I've been told and read you can do both, seal first, wax after, if you choose to. This again, can vary GREATLY on the timeline, but mainly because of the product, but also the conditions your car endures. You can never wax/seal a car too much - I did my Gen 1 lightning EVERY Saturday. But, I typically tell my customers once a quarter is great, twice a year is pushing it, but no less then once a year, as no product can last that long. Typical life on waxes range from 2wk to 4 months (again, depending on the variables), and sealants up to a year.

Hope this helps.
Perfect answer and thank you for the reply!
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 12:31 PM
  #1605  
BlueBird346's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,677
Likes: 1
From: Oxford, AL
Default

OP, whats your opinion on Zaino Z-2 vs. Blackfire Wet Diamond?

Last edited by BlueBird346; Jul 7, 2012 at 01:30 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 12:46 PM
  #1606  
TransAmcoupe98's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,210
Likes: 2
From: Winchester, TN
Default

Is there a "better/best" wax for Yellow cars or is standard wax as good as it gets?
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 12:47 PM
  #1607  
TransAmcoupe98's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,210
Likes: 2
From: Winchester, TN
Default

This thread is amazing BTW. By far most knowledge based thread I've seen in a loooong time on tech.
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 02:33 PM
  #1608  
GoFast908Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,367
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by BigDaddyBry
I do not know how you could deduce that from my post. I do not think that at all, I think you are providing a great service.

I was commenting on the people who use the excuse "I don't have the time to read through all the pages, so let me ask..." while pointing out the thread itself has a search function and is much longer because of repetitive questions.
Oh ok. There were a few people who said I couldn't be bothered to just rewrite certain answers in depth so they didn't have to search for them.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 02:36 PM
  #1609  
GoFast908Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,367
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by idle
Perfect answer and thank you for the reply!

Actually several things I'd disagree with in there.... will point them out and why in a few minutes.
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 02:38 PM
  #1610  
LilJayV10's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (39)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 9,711
Likes: 999
From: Evansville,IN
Default

Originally Posted by mac62989
Jay- Yes I meant tree sap. Not dark but whitish colored pretty similiar to what you described.

Jeff- Acid rain could make sense but it is only present all over the hood. I will try to get a picture up here..
I would try Tarminator to see if that would dissolve whatever it is. Tarminator is pretty versatile stuff.
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 02:46 PM
  #1611  
GoFast908Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,367
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by idle
1.) What's the best way to dry a car after washing it? Chamois, Squeegee(hope not), leaf blower, something else?

2.) How often should I clay? Wax? Seal?
This has been answered before.... so here we go with cliffnotes again.

-flood the pain with the hose with no nozzle first to remove majority of water
-Electric leaf blower (excellent for wheels), and do this when the ground is wet, you don't want to stir dirt up back onto the car
-Waffle Weave drying microfiber towel with some quick detail spray if needed.


Claying should be done whenever the car needs it, so it depends on your environment. If the paint starts to feel rough, clay it.

How often for wax and seal? Depends on the product and environment again. Daily Driver vs Garage queen will be drastically different. Most OTC waxes are about 4-6 weeks. Higher end waxes can get you 3+ months.

Sealants are usually starting in the 3-4 month range and can go over 6 months.
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 02:48 PM
  #1612  
GoFast908Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,367
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by TransAmcoupe98
Is there a "better/best" wax for Yellow cars or is standard wax as good as it gets?
DoDo Juice has a wax specifically for yellow cars. Some call it marketing, so say it works amazing.... I haven't tried it so I can't comment. IMO there will be little difference if any compared to wax of similar quality.
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 02:48 PM
  #1613  
GoFast908Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,367
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by TransAmcoupe98
This thread is amazing BTW. By far most knowledge based thread I've seen in a loooong time on tech.
Thank you
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 02:50 PM
  #1614  
GoFast908Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,367
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by BlueBird346
OP, whats your opinion on Zaino Z-2 vs. Blackfire Wet Diamond?
I think the BFWD has it by the looks and the slickness as well as ease of application and removal.

However, Zaino gives a much better reflective surface and will beat the durability of BFWD by almost double (3-4mo vs 6+ mo)
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 02:53 PM
  #1615  
JUSTINSWS6's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
Default

gofast not really are car question but a mf towel question. i know waffle weave mf towels are better but why are they better?
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 02:53 PM
  #1616  
mac62989's Avatar
TECH Junkie
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,454
Likes: 32
From: CT
Default

Originally Posted by LilJayV10
I would try Tarminator to see if that would dissolve whatever it is. Tarminator is pretty versatile stuff.
Where can I find it, online only?
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 03:05 PM
  #1617  
GoFast908Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,367
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Blkdvll
Being a professional detailer for the last 7 years myself, and being no one answered your question....I'll help you out.

1. After a nice mitt wash their are several ways you can go about drying your car. My perferred method - even with hard water - is to use a California Water Blade to remove the bulk of the water followed by an air dryer (leaf blower). HOWEVER, make sure your water blade is clean before every use by running it under water and running your finger over the blade to remove any dust/dirt/debris. I use a Craftsman vacuum with detachable blower to air dry the vehicles. Afterwards, if you have any waterspots/streaks you can come back around with a micro and quick detail spray to touch up.

2. There really isn't any solid answer to this. There are so many variables including how you maintain it, how its stored, the weather in your area, and the products you use just to name a few. Claying should usually only be done when needed (you'll feel it in the paint), as you're running a brick across the paint - again it comes down to how the car is maintained as far as a timeline goes. Wax/Seal are essentially the same thing. Waxing usually referes to using a natural product (think Carnuaba), where as Sealing usually referes to a synthetic wax. However, from what I've been told and read you can do both, seal first, wax after, if you choose to. This again, can vary GREATLY on the timeline, but mainly because of the product, but also the conditions your car endures. You can never wax/seal a car too much - I did my Gen 1 lightning EVERY Saturday. But, I typically tell my customers once a quarter is great, twice a year is pushing it, but no less then once a year, as no product can last that long. Typical life on waxes range from 2wk to 4 months (again, depending on the variables), and sealants up to a year.

Hope this helps.

I disagree on a few things here, from experience and backed up on the detail forums.

-The CA water blade....it only takes one particle of dust to land on the car and get caught under the blade and leave nasty marks....that can happen on the surface of the car while you're cleaning the blade. Problem is doing it that way takes too long vs other methods so I don't recommend it.

-A blower is a great idea, but not one run off a vacuum. Its primary job is to suck up DIRT. You will get some dirt back out onto the paint unless it has *multiple* inline filters. Use a standard electric leaf blower instead which is also more mobile and easier to use quickly.

-If you want to seal & wax the car, great. But most waxes have solvents in them and you need to let the sealant fully cure before applying wax. This is not something you can do in the same afternoon on a quick job. I'd not apply a wax over a sealant any sooner than 12 hours, and 24 hours would be ideal. If the wax removes the sealant...then whats the point?

-You actually can wax a car too much. Frequent layers of wax ('nuba-based) will dull the paint. It will start to mute metallic/pearl properties and on solid colors it will start to look cloudy. How noticeable depends on the product, how corrected the paint was to start with, and how frequent the application. I wouldn't wax more than twice a month and only that often with a product that has a short durability cycle. Something like Swissvax Concorso (4-6 months durability) I wouldn't use it more than every other month. You wouldn't want your girl putting makeup on everyday without removing the old stuff would you? Similar principle.


-There are product that will last over a year. Coatings. Sealants and waxes won't, but coatings will. Ex: Optimum Opti-Guard/Opti-Coat 2.0, CQuartz, AQuartz, and a couple others that have recently hit the market. These typically start around 18 months durability and can go over several years (Opti-Guard/Coat 2.0)

-Just a note about wax durability, the OTC ones will never make it to 4 months on a car that sees the road daily (whether its garaged at night or not). You'll need the higher end waxes for that durability. The one exception to this rule is Collinite.
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 03:08 PM
  #1618  
GoFast908Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,367
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by JUSTINSWS6
gofast not really are car question but a mf towel question. i know waffle weave mf towels are better but why are they better?
The shape of the pockets give the water somewhere to go, they are typically thicker as well. But someone who is an expert on MF could probably explain it more eloquently.
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 03:09 PM
  #1619  
GoFast908Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,367
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by mac62989
Where can I find it, online only?
Just about every autoparts store will have it. I always keep a can handy. One of the VERY few products I pick up locally.
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2012 | 03:15 PM
  #1620  
JUSTINSWS6's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
Just about every autoparts store will have it. I always keep a can handy. One of the VERY few products I pick up locally.
tarminators website has is 20 bucks for four cans of it. im sure napa or orilleys has is it.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:54 AM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE