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Old 06-24-2005, 02:44 AM
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Did a search on the Corral and see terryr is a member there too. There's some info in this link.

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=112183

But I believe even using a Thunderbird clutch assembly, you wouldn't have room on the firewall to mount the master cylinder.

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what are the odds of someone producing an ls1 fox body header? Im not the best weith a welder. In fact my garage wont even support one

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I'm using LS1 F-body Hooker Shorties. They fit perfect except the huge triangle flanges. I'm removing them and having some ball/socket flanges welded on and bolting it to a "stock" aftermarket X pipe.

Apparently 351 longtubes with LS1 flanges work great, though I hear you may need to work the tubes over a little to clear everything.
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I sure do hope you figure this thing out. I plan on doing the same conversion with my Mustang but only if the T56 works.
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Lightbulb hmmmmmmmm......

I think the idea terryr is thinking of is to use the t-bird/fox body steering column cover/mount. The clutch master mounts in the hole right next to the steering column. I pretty sure the cover/mount would be easy to adapt to the SN-95 Mustang body style. You will also need the tbird Sc clutch cross-shaft for the pedal to link up to the master push rod. From there you just need to attach the hydraulic line to the LS1 T56 and go fry some rice
Look at the pics again closely.
http://members.shaw.ca/pekpress/HydraulicClutch.html
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Old 06-25-2005, 10:54 AM
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I don't really see the need to swap out pedal assemblies with the T-bird.

The F-body master cylinder could easily be adapted to the stock Mustang clutch pedal if there was a proper location and enough room.

It may be that Ford may have planned on using a hydraulic clutch at one time or another in the Fox bodied cars, but once the SN cars were designed, they knew there wouldn't be any type of hydraulic clutch, so they designed the car without a spot for it. Just my theory.

PS...I should be picking my car up from the painters this weekend (hopefully) so I should be able to make some forward progress on this deal. I'll post pics up of the painted car. Should look amazing!
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Lightbulb Ls1......t56.......

It may be that Ford may have planned on using a hydraulic clutch at one time or another in the Fox bodied cars, but once the SN cars were designed, they knew there wouldn't be any type of hydraulic clutch, so they designed the car without a spot for it. Just my theory.
Well, this would be the reason to adapt the t-bird/fox body steering colmun mount to the SN-95, then there is a spot to munt the clutch master cyl. The t-bird cross shaft is necessary because the master cyl. pushrod pivot point faces towards the bottom and not the top like factory SN95 cross shaft.
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well, what do you know? I have a 87 Turbo Coupe in a local yard...too bad my 87 TC parts car is an auto!
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what an abomination...
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Originally Posted by 02Z28EVLM04
what an abomination...
what a jackass statement...STFU n00b
Now, back to our regularly scheduled kick-*** project!
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Question abomination?????????????

what an abomination...
Posted by 02Z28EVLM04

As 30th TA 0219 said,
what a jackass statement...STFU n00b
Now, back to our regularly scheduled kick-*** project!
Hers one for you 02Z28EVLM04, Do you even know what abomination means?
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Exclamation 02z28evlm04........................

Something else for you, if you don't like what were up to, don't read the posts! This is a conversions/hybrids thread, so it doesn't matter if someone puts an LS1 into a Yugo or Hyundai, Gremlin or Pacer, Kia or Mitsubishi, etc.
Why don't you just go back to your Ricer froum and dream about driving something different.
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Originally Posted by jbk240z
Well, this would be the reason to adapt the t-bird/fox body steering colmun mount to the SN-95, then there is a spot to munt the clutch master cyl. The t-bird cross shaft is necessary because the master cyl. pushrod pivot point faces towards the bottom and not the top like factory SN95 cross shaft.
I'm saying that they didn't design the firewall to have a location for any type of master cylinder to come through. And it may be different on the Fox bodies. All the stuff under the dash doesn't matter. There would be no reason why you couldn't adapt the master cylinder to the stock Cobra pedal assembly, if only there was room on the firewall to let the master cylinder come through.
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Just out of curiosity why is it that the cable won't work? Is it too short. What about having a longer cable made?
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Originally Posted by 69LS1TRUCK
Just out of curiosity why is it that the cable won't work? Is it too short. What about having a longer cable made?
There is no way I've found or seen that you can use a cable to work with an LS1 T56. There is no clutch fork. The throwout bearing is actuated by using hydraulic pressure from the master cylinder.
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This guy is on to something....

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-swaps/342718-mustang-ls1-91-coupe-pics.html
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Originally Posted by CMcCarthy
I think that may be more trouble than it's worth.

If there were room on the firewall of my car, in front of where the clutch pedal would be, that I could mount the master cylinder, then I would mount it there and attach it to the Mustang clutch pedal.
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http://www.montecarloss.com/ls1monte.../February.html

If you check out the page above, John B fabricated a bracket that bolts to the clutch pedal, that the master cylinder attaches to.

I think doing something like this would be ideal. Attach a similar bracket to the Mustang clutch pedal and attach the master cylinder to it. My problem is that I don't think there will be a good location on the firewall in front of the clutch pedal to actually mount the master cylinder.
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Old 06-28-2005, 06:32 PM
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Hey Mystic96 i am doing a mustang Ls1 conversion as well and we at Hawks third generation are making a bracket for Ls1 pedals to fit in mustangs. If you want to wait. Check out my thread. https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342718
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It will make it alot easier when mounting the master and connection.
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how hard would it be to put a LS1 in a 2004 Mustang with a T56 tranny?
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Originally Posted by cgriff97cobra
Hey Mystic96 i am doing a mustang Ls1 conversion as well and we at Hawks third generation are making a bracket for Ls1 pedals to fit in mustangs. If you want to wait. Check out my thread. https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342718
That'd be cool. Hopefully you can get something figured out. Maybe Fox body cars have different designs on the way the floor boards, firewalls, and frame rails tie in, but i'm concerned on my car not having enough room to mount the master cylinder. Not the connecting the master cylinder to the pedal.
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