najaf4life

well I finally got around to getting my cam installed and today went and had the car dynoed today.. I guess it didn't do bad... But I thought that it would be more than what it was... Thought I would get at least 400rwhp...
any idea on why it could be so low?

blewbyouss

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Was the torque converter locked? most stalled auto's dyno very low but rape on the track.
i wouldn't be afraid to say you have a solid high 11 second car right there, Driver/tractiond permitting

najaf4life

yes it was locked... but from the other "El Torro" cams dynoed 400rwhp+

and well I was hopen for at least mid to low 11's with my setup..

the stall is rated 3400-3600 but Mike said that he has seen this before...
it still really doesn't idle right after his tune... he thinks that the cam could be a tooth off and causing all of the problems...

I just wanna see what everyone else has to say about it or what they think might be up with it...

Titanws6

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Well I can't see the graph at work, but the el torro is more so for TQ and not HP, I'll check the graph later. The tuning can take a little time with this cam, I put down 417hp, but that was also with 243 heads, M6 and supporting mods. Whate else do you have done to the car, hows the exhaust set-up? All the little things will get you over 400, but you're an A4 too. I bet from a dig, it gets up and goes though.

najaf4life

well Mike spent a couple of hours on this cam and he still thinks that the cam might be a tooth off cause he can't get it to even idle that good... but full exhuast, e-cutout, lid...

but once your not at work you can see my mods on the graph


Also I know/understand that the A4 will dyno lower... but if it isn't even that close to 400rwhp and he even says that there is something up what else should I think?

hugger1975

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time to drive up to plainfield and see what she has

and ditto on the stalled dynoing lower.....then raping ****** at the track

najaf4life

LMAO


maybe one day... but I think it is just kinda weird cause the idle isn't even really that right.. I guess I'm just gonna have to tear it apart and see if it is off a tooth or not...

danieloneil01

Man, you're A/F is 13. Seems a bit on the lean side.

Titanws6

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PM sent

ExceSSive

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Not bad for a lid/cam/LT/cutout...do you have any other mods? My stalled patriot H/C (224/224) SS only made 386/38x but ran 12.42 @ 111-113 with 2.2 '60s on street tires.

Damian

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That's just about spot-on for what this cam makes.

The "El Torro" doesn't make a lot of peak HP. It makes a big fat TQ curve, just like the one you have.

Intercooler2

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About right without heads.

MikeG

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There is something amiss I would say. I made 21 hp/3 tq less than you and I only have bolt ons and am a stalled auto too. This was on Mike's dyno as well, when he was in Florida. I know it sucks, but I would pull the front cover off again and check your timing set.

Nitroused383

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Keep in mind this is STD numbers and your SAE will be 5-10 hp lower. Maybe you have a vacuum leak somewhere, that would cause idle issues, or if you are running in closed loop you could have an exhaust leak before your o2 sensors. I highly doubt your cam is off a tooth as the power / torque curve looks spot on. Try to check your IAC motor on the throttle body, they get plugged up with carbon after a few years. Clean the thing out with some brake cleaner and that may help. What exactly is wrong with your idle?

MauriSSio

look at the graph where hes above 13af on the run, the power curve looks better than it did when more fuel started coming on. 13af ratio aint bad, sure itll generate more heat than 12.5 (like everybody seems to shoot for) but how often are you going WOT? also at the end of the run the AF goes into the 12's and the power looks unchanged, i dont think AF is an issue in this case.

NHRAFORMULA00

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That cam should idle GREAT!!! The graph shows it peaking at 6000.Chrs1313 graph peaked at 6400 with the cutout open,he put down 421 and 394 on Speed ink dynojet.He had all the bolt ons possible except an electric water pump.If it was a tooth off either way, advanced or retarded, i dont think it would clear piston to valve.Was it degree in?Did you check push rod length?What plugs? What were they gapped at? Lots of variables.

MauriSSio

at what rpm was his done by?

SSmoken

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i wouldnt worry about dyno numbers. let the time slip do the talking. sounds better when your run an 11.x, own the streets, and then they find out you only made 375hp instead of 400hp.

chrs1313

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guys this is my actual cam so we know it can make power...

and for the idle it should have no problem at all right around 900rpm...it was actually a great street cam...

I hope when you installed it wasnt setup wrong I know it is easy to get mixed up with advancing and retarding the cam with an adjustable timing set...the cam is a 111+4 but I retarded it 2* to get it at 111+2 to gain a hair more ptvc...now it can still be installed straight up and have tighter clearance and push the curve a hair but I think the power is a little on the low side if you have full bolt ons and locked on the dyno...

too bad you didn't do a baseline cause that would help out a ton...

chrs1313

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his is peaking around 6000 while my graph pulls to 6300