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Old Feb 7, 2025 | 03:33 PM
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Guys help me out here, trying to figure out how to run all these inputs & outputs.
currently
#1 iac kick
#2 ac shut off
#3 flex fuel
#4 second fuel pump
#5 trans cooler
#6 2 step
#7 spare
#8 spare
I want to be able to run boost off the holley so i know i need 2 outputs for the mac valves and 1 input for dome pressure sensor and i also have the transbrake now in which i need and input for the transbrake and an input for the bump and also a pwm negative out for the SSR holley solenoid 2 step wire will be re used as 1 of these. I was thinking of pulling the ac stuff off the because i can turn the ac off by hand so that no big deal and was also thinking of just running both pumps constantly and that should give me the 6 inputs/outputs I need. What do you guys think??
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Old Feb 7, 2025 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy42088
Guys help me out here, trying to figure out how to run all these inputs & outputs.
currently
#1 iac kick
#2 ac shut off
#3 flex fuel
#4 second fuel pump
#5 trans cooler
#6 2 step
#7 spare
#8 spare
I want to be able to run boost off the holley so i know i need 2 outputs for the mac valves and 1 input for dome pressure sensor and i also have the transbrake now in which i need and input for the transbrake and an input for the bump and also a pwm negative out for the SSR holley solenoid 2 step wire will be re used as 1 of these. I was thinking of pulling the ac stuff off the because i can turn the ac off by hand so that no big deal and was also thinking of just running both pumps constantly and that should give me the 6 inputs/outputs I need. What do you guys think??
Inputs
1. IAC kick
2. Dome pressure
3. Ethanol sensor
4. 2-step

Outputs
1. Engine fan?
2. Second fuel pump
3. Boost +
4. Boost -

You can probably run the transmission fan with the key on. There AC Shutdown is also an output and you do not have space. The I/O expansion module is an option and you can offload non critical inputs and outputs to it.

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Old Feb 7, 2025 | 09:33 PM
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Inputs
1. IAC kick
2. Dome pressure
3. Ethanol sensor
4. 2-step

Outputs
1. Engine fan?
2. Second fuel pump
3. Boost +
4. Boost -

You can probably run the transmission fan with the key on. There AC Shutdown is also an output and you do not have space. The I/O expansion module is an option and you can offload non critical inputs and outputs to it.

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I should have been more clear, i have an intergrated current performance harness with factory computer and terminator x max and I currently have 1 mac valve and boost controlled by turbosmart boost controller with inputs/outputs as such
*inputs
iac kick
flex fuel sensor
2 step
*outputs
ac Shutdown
2nd fuel pump
Trans cooler
What im wanting to do is add a second mac valve with dome pressure sensor controlled by holley and Viair air compressor. Im also wanting to wire in the transbrake and bump switch with the SSR holley nitrous solenoid driver.
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Old Feb 7, 2025 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy42088
I should have been more clear, i have an intergrated current performance harness with factory computer and terminator x max and I currently have 1 mac valve and boost controlled by turbosmart boost controller with inputs/outputs as such
*inputs
iac kick
flex fuel sensor
2 step
*outputs
ac Shutdown
2nd fuel pump
Trans cooler
What im wanting to do is add a second mac valve with dome pressure sensor controlled by holley and Viair air compressor. Im also wanting to wire in the transbrake and bump switch with the SSR holley nitrous solenoid driver.
So what is your question?
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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 06:03 AM
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So what is your question?
how can I make everything work, when i need more inputs/outputs then i have available? Could i run the trans coolers with the radiator fans relay? Can i just put the second fuel pump tied in with primary to run constantly? Could I disconnect iac kick ? I know i can disconnect the ac shut off but trying to figure out how to successfully add transbrake, bump, with SSR and boost control by holley.
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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 08:54 AM
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Is my only option to buy all this stuff? Module to add more Inputs/outputs, spliter so i can run my screen and laptop at the same time, and I don't have the cable for my laptop so I was going to buy that so when I put the motor in my tuner can make the changes I need without me having to tow it to his house, I'll still bring it to him to tune on the dyno but like this he can make necessary changes before I drive it.


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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 09:01 AM
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Perhaps it is time to consider a Dominator ECU.

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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 09:48 AM
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Perhaps it is time to consider a Dominator ECU.

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I just got the terminator x a few months ago, if that weren't the case then I would but I've already wasted enough money on the project so I definitely dont want to throw more down the drain.
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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 09:51 AM
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I just got the terminator x a few months ago, if that weren't the case then I would but I've already wasted enough money on the project so I definitely dont want to throw more down the drain.
If you want all of the features that you outlined in a previous post, then you either adjust the functionality, add a CAN I/O expansion module, or get a Dominator. Those are your options.

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What about the pro dash? Doesn't that add more inputs & outputs?
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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 10:03 AM
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If you want all of the features that you outlined in a previous post, then you either adjust the functionality, add a CAN I/O expansion module, or get a Dominator. Those are your options.

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that's what I'm asking, is it possible to adjust functionality and make all this work with my current setup or do I have to buy the expansion module?
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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 12:23 PM
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*Coming my way
-holley edi can input/output module
-holley communication cable
-holley can splitter
-mac valve
-dome pressure sensor
-pressure sensor cable
-push lock union for mac valves
-viair (10000) ultra light air system
-air compressor regulator
-second button for my bump
I put a metal bracket around the steering wheel and put the transbrake button like that and it worked out ok. I think I'll put the bump on the dash. I thought it through and I don't want 2 cords on the steering wheel.
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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommy42088
*Coming my way
-holley edi can input/output module
-holley communication cable
-holley can splitter
-mac valve
-dome pressure sensor
-pressure sensor cable
-push lock union for mac valves
-viair (10000) ultra light air system
-air compressor regulator
-second button for my bump
I put a metal bracket around the steering wheel and put the transbrake button like that and it worked out ok. I think I'll put the bump on the dash. I thought it through and I don't want 2 cords on the steering wheel.
Just remember that you can't wire critical inputs and outputs to the I/O expansion module, or more accurately, you shouldn't. Use it for your fans and AC stuff.

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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 10:13 AM
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Just remember that you can't wire critical inputs and outputs to the I/O expansion module, or more accurately, you shouldn't. Use it for your fans and AC stuff.

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ok, can you explain why i shouldn't?
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ok, can you explain why i shouldn't?
Some you actually can't, like you can't assign the boost control solenoid output to the I/O expansion module. Any input or output that gets created by the software from inside a particular ICF, has to be wired directly to the ECU.

Any I/Os that are created in the I/O ICF can be configured to be wired to the expansion module.

The reason that you don't want critical I/Os to be on the expansion module is their signal come over the CAN network, which has some latency. It's a data network, like Ethernet, and send packets of data instead of electrical signals.

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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 10:56 AM
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Some you actually can't, like you can't assign the boost control solenoid output to the I/O expansion module. Any input or output that gets created by the software from inside a particular ICF, has to be wired directly to the ECU.

Any I/Os that are created in the I/O ICF can be configured to be wired to the expansion module.

The reason that you don't want critical I/Os to be on the expansion module is their signal come over the CAN network, which has some latency. It's a data network, like Ethernet, and send packets of data instead of electrical signals.

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oh ok, yeh you lost me on that one, ill post how i have everything wired when im finished for you guys to look at and let me know if I have something that needs to be changed.
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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 11:08 AM
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oh ok, yeh you lost me on that one, ill post how i have everything wired when im finished for you guys to look at and let me know if I have something that needs to be changed.
Instead of doing that, why don't we put a plan together so you do it right the first time? Where is your tuner in all this? He should know the details of how Holley works.

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Instead of doing that, why don't we put a plan together so you do it right the first time? Where is your tuner in all this? He should know the details of how Holley works.

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he does but I want everything to be clean so thats why I'm wiring everything over, my truck was z bit messy under the hood. He could possibly help me but im still waiting on him to finish the motor so I don't want to ask him for something else that's going to slow the process of me getting the shortblock back.
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he does but I want everything to be clean so thats why I'm wiring everything over, my truck was z bit messy under the hood. He could possibly help me but im still waiting on him to finish the motor so I don't want to ask him for something else that's going to slow the process of me getting the shortblock back.
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/554-165

Follow that link. Scroll down and you will see links to two different PDF documents. I suggest that you download them, read every word, twice, then proceed accordingly.

If you have questions, post them.

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https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/554-165

Follow that link. Scroll down and you will see links to two different PDF documents. I suggest that you download them, read every word, twice, then proceed accordingly.

If you have questions, post them.

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can transbrake and bump run off the module?
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