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New Camaro, New Challenger, GT500?!?!?!

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Old 10-12-2007, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bmxer8699
realistically i chose the ls2 camaro seeing as that seems the most affordable for now.
You do know the LS2 is/has ended production?
Old 10-26-2007, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hc8719
You do know the LS2 is/has ended production?
Well I sell Chevrolet's.... and at that, that's very interesting being they must have stockpiled the LS2's for Trailblazer SS's for this next production year.


Not really sure what to forecast for the Camaro --- The LS2 seems like a viable proven option, but in essence I see and L76 or L92 motor being the way they decide to roll with this puppy.
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off course 09 Ls7 Camaro
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By the time the new Camaro comes out, the LS2 will be no more, if not already. I think they'll put the vette' {base} engine in it, the LS3.
Old 11-02-2007, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hc8719
You do know the LS2 is/has ended production?
Umm... no? G8 and TBSS both have it.
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LS2 is at the end of its life cycle. it will be used in the TBSS for the next model year but it is being phased out. The LS3 is its replacement. the G8 doesnt have the LS2. Im pretty sure its the L76. anyways by the time the camaro makes production the LS2 will be completely phased out.
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Originally Posted by IFRYRCE
Umm... no? G8 and TBSS both have it.
Yes, the G8 has the L76 V8, not an LS2. THe Trailblazer SS will have the LS2, but the engines should be finishing production very soon
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I am now hoping for the LS8.
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Hmmm, what would be my spending limit? Without price considerations? I would get the 725hp GT500 Supersnake.
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Originally Posted by hepcatws6
Hmmm, what would be my spending limit? Without price considerations? I would get the 725hp GT500 Supersnake.
I heard it has 605hp and ONLY runs a 12.5 in the quarter. Is it just me or is that kinda slow for 605 hp?

Ford would be screwed if it werent for blowers, imo.
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Originally Posted by BlueBird346
I heard it has 605hp and ONLY runs a 12.5 in the quarter. Is it just me or is that kinda slow for 605 hp?

Ford would be screwed if it werent for blowers, imo.
If someone ran 12.5 in the 700+hp model GT500 it would put them in the same class of retards who only run 13's in a C6 Z06. Hell, a standard 500hp GT500 can run a bit better than that stock. Ford screwed up using an iron block in the new Shelby's. That car should've been 3700 lbs tops, and it should not have hit the streets with that 4x4 boulevard cruiser suspension either. Wasted opportunity IMO.

And Ford wouldn't be screwed without blowers........they're just being lazy. There's too much politics and beancounter-mongerism in the company right now for a proper big cubes motor to see development. They could easily develop a production DOHC 5.0 that could push out 400hp....but I'm not holding my breath that they'll get with the program anytime soon.

As far as future favorites.......well, the GT500 and Challenger will be too heavy for my tastes, and the Camaro is just too ugly. Looks like I'll have to hope for another contestant, or just stick to modding what I've got right now.
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Originally Posted by ThisBlood147
They could easily develop a production DOHC 5.0 that could push out 400hp....but I'm not holding my breath that they'll get with the program anytime soon.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automotive-news-media-press/812666-competition-has-500hp-n-car-coming-out.html
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I don't know how accurate any of that info is. I've heard alot about a possible 5.0 OHC to replace the current 4.6 in the GT's. But if its less than 345-350hp stock, that's lame.
I've also heard about a possible 5.8 as well as the 6.2........but hp estimates I've seen as of late are a complete joke. The 5.8 should realistically be in the 420-450hp range. The 6.2 should be in the 500hp area. I mean.....these are OHC cam motors we're talking about. That many cubes in a DOHC config should make considerably more power than an OHV of the same displacement.........IF they are engineered correctly, I should say.

I don't have alot of faith in Ford doing right by the Mustang faithful at this point. Yea, they gave us a 500hp 'Stang, but at the expense of weight balance...and a less than stellar suspension setup. Ford could put out a 400ish hp DOHC 5.0, drop it into the current S197 chassis, put in a good performance suspension with a 4 link rear, and then give the car the GT500's big brakes and 6 speed. Offer it as the new Boss 302 for about 35K and you've got a winner. But hey......I've been called crazy before. Ford's a bit of a wild card in the future pony/musclecar scene right now.
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Originally Posted by ThisBlood147
I don't know how accurate any of that info is. I've heard alot about a possible 5.0 OHC to replace the current 4.6 in the GT's. But if its less than 345-350hp stock, that's lame.
I've also heard about a possible 5.8 as well as the 6.2........but hp estimates I've seen as of late are a complete joke. The 5.8 should realistically be in the 420-450hp range. The 6.2 should be in the 500hp area. I mean.....these are OHC cam motors we're talking about. That many cubes in a DOHC config should make considerably more power than an OHV of the same displacement.........IF they are engineered correctly, I should say.

I don't have alot of faith in Ford doing right by the Mustang faithful at this point. Yea, they gave us a 500hp 'Stang, but at the expense of weight balance...and a less than stellar suspension setup. Ford could put out a 400ish hp DOHC 5.0, drop it into the current S197 chassis, put in a good performance suspension with a 4 link rear, and then give the car the GT500's big brakes and 6 speed. Offer it as the new Boss 302 for about 35K and you've got a winner. But hey......I've been called crazy before. Ford's a bit of a wild card in the future pony/musclecar scene right now.
I think the F150 brakes would fit the bill better. Cheaper and more than capable of just about anything the Mustang can throw at them.

Personally, I think Ford REALLY needs to work on the fuel economy of their <4 cylinder engines. Right now, their powerplants are pretty much below average across the field when it comes to mpg. You'd think that a 4.6L wouldn't use more gas than a GM 5.3 or 6.0L, but somehow it manages to do it.
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Originally Posted by ThisBlood147
I don't know how accurate any of that info is. I've heard alot about a possible 5.0 OHC to replace the current 4.6 in the GT's.
Originally Posted by Hydramatic
Personally, I think Ford REALLY needs to work on the fuel economy of their <4 cylinder engines. Right now, their powerplants are pretty much below average across the field when it comes to mpg. You'd think that a 4.6L wouldn't use more gas than a GM 5.3 or 6.0L, but somehow it manages to do it.
the new boss/hurricane motors are supposed to remedy a lot of the shortcomings of the modular platform. bore spacing is fixed, fuel mileage is considerably better. looks like there will also be some decent N/A offerings from the new platform. ive seen 6.2, 7.0, 5.0, not sure on what they will actually be. and on the note of the smaller engines, they will hopefully be improved as they are beginning to use things like direct injection on the newer ones. not to mention the twin force cars are going to be sick, always loved turbo duratecs.

hopefully they be a little like this one
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Im not a Dodge guy but id rather own the Challenger than the new camaro. its hideous
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As much as I Love that ls7 Lets leave that ls7 in the corvette The ls7 would simply make the Camaro over priced. Rather Mod the ls3 and its been confirmed that the new camaro will no longer have the ls2
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LS7 Camaro.
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I keep an open mind but so far I prefer the looks of the Challenger.
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Have you seen this?

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