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I did it! I got my cooler working
) (I'll snap pics tomorrow).
Now I am seeing something odd..
My low coolant light comes on even when there is plenty of fluid.
(I think there might be just a little more then there needs to be)
I have tried squeezing the hoses and that did help a little, I then added more fluid to replace the escaped air.
The light turned off for a little bit but back on![Sad](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_sad.gif)
I've drivin it about 20 miles and haven't seen any overheating signs on my temp gauge.. And after driving and it's at operating temp, I see the reservoir is very high.
Any suggestions or help? :/
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Now I am seeing something odd..
My low coolant light comes on even when there is plenty of fluid.
(I think there might be just a little more then there needs to be)
I have tried squeezing the hoses and that did help a little, I then added more fluid to replace the escaped air.
The light turned off for a little bit but back on
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I've drivin it about 20 miles and haven't seen any overheating signs on my temp gauge.. And after driving and it's at operating temp, I see the reservoir is very high.
Any suggestions or help? :/
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Not so sure about the previous posters reference to PS fluid deteriorating trans seal components, here's why.
I 1st experienced a PS overheat at a HPD day @ RA that the MW F-Body folks were hosting.
The PS overheated to the point that the fluid was not only on the engine but was also visible streaking out of the LF wheel well. A few reliable Camaro owners recomended using a baster to remove as much of the fluid as possible then use a Dex 111 or better ATF to top of the resevoir, yes i ended up with a mixture of the 2 fluids. Once that was done I completed 2 more sessions that day and had minimal , if any overheating issue of the PS system. The explanation was that PS and ATF have similar chemical properties. 2 years and 10+ HPD sessions later all is well and on very rare occasions do I now get an overheating issue after a hot session on a very hot day. All that said it does make sense to isolate the PS cooling but has anyone noticed a change in the ease of steering with operating temperatures in the 150-180 degree operating temperature once the system is isioated from the heat of the engine????? Not exactly sure what that new operating temperature will be.
I 1st experienced a PS overheat at a HPD day @ RA that the MW F-Body folks were hosting.
The PS overheated to the point that the fluid was not only on the engine but was also visible streaking out of the LF wheel well. A few reliable Camaro owners recomended using a baster to remove as much of the fluid as possible then use a Dex 111 or better ATF to top of the resevoir, yes i ended up with a mixture of the 2 fluids. Once that was done I completed 2 more sessions that day and had minimal , if any overheating issue of the PS system. The explanation was that PS and ATF have similar chemical properties. 2 years and 10+ HPD sessions later all is well and on very rare occasions do I now get an overheating issue after a hot session on a very hot day. All that said it does make sense to isolate the PS cooling but has anyone noticed a change in the ease of steering with operating temperatures in the 150-180 degree operating temperature once the system is isioated from the heat of the engine????? Not exactly sure what that new operating temperature will be.
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If you look back through the thread, I recall that folks are finding temperatures in the 160-180 range after the cooling change.
BTW - I'd expect that PS fluid is lighter weight and kinder to the pump components vs. the ATF fluid, which is designed for heavier wear. Probably not the best thing for a daily driver.
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So after reading this thread I think I have everything I need. Please tell me if theres anyting else I need. Dayco upper radiator hose 71981, Derale 13224, and 4 bottles of PS fluid. Is there anything else I need? Thanks.
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OK.....for those who care.....my car is an 02 ss....my power steering has been whining for the past two years...it all started when a pump went out...i first thought ahh its nothing ill just replace it....well that didnt work long story short i ended up putting two more pumps in...still didnt fix the problem...so i drove around for a while with the whining....replacing the pumps didnt help so i ordered a rack...put the rack in...nope didnt solve the problem..so i decided to put another pump in and no were at persent time..YES my p/s fluid is the color you ppl speak of.....all this damn money and its the ps cooler....now thats solved ...should i worry about ps fluid in my coolant hurting anything ie water pump....havent checked the coolant to see if there is any ps fluid...ive had this problem over two years now....FML i wish i would have seen this a while ago...im worried about the motor its new has less than 10k mi on it...
this just adds insult to injury considering i blew two other bone stock LS1's due to a bad MAF....
this just adds insult to injury considering i blew two other bone stock LS1's due to a bad MAF....
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He is referring to a union. It's to connect two pieces of power steering rubber line together. You may or may not need one from what I'm reading. Some claim there is enough factory hose to make it to the aftermarket cooler.
If you're worried, just take one of the hoses with you into an auto parts store or home improvement store and ask them for a male/male union to fit that hose.
Can anyone confirm whether the factory p/s hose is 3/8 or 5/16?
If you're worried, just take one of the hoses with you into an auto parts store or home improvement store and ask them for a male/male union to fit that hose.
Can anyone confirm whether the factory p/s hose is 3/8 or 5/16?
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how could i tell if my ps fluid is mixed with my coolant in the ps reservoir? will it be brownish? because my power steering whines like a banshee, i thought it was low on fluid but its full lol. btw ive only had the car a cpl months. i guess if they're mixed ill be flushing both systems?
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how could i tell if my ps fluid is mixed with my coolant in the ps reservoir? will it be brownish? because my power steering whines like a banshee, i thought it was low on fluid but its full lol. btw ive only had the car a cpl months. i guess if they're mixed ill be flushing both systems?
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God what a dumb idea that was... I guess GM did this to heat up the PS fluid quickly after start-up, same reasoning for ATF for the auto cars to run through the radiator for the tranny?
My red TA is manual with no PS cooler, so I have never had to deal with any of these problems thank God. Nothing goes into my radiator except for water from the motor.
My red TA is manual with no PS cooler, so I have never had to deal with any of these problems thank God. Nothing goes into my radiator except for water from the motor.