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Old 02-01-2011 | 12:55 PM
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Talking bout to go ms3 cam need stall help

im bout to go with a ms3 cam im tryin to see what size stall should i go with any ideas
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Which stall with a MS3

Stalls and Cams...

MS3 Cam / Converter Combo

MS3 cam only. What do i need???

MS3 in stock A4?

what stall with MS3


That's just the tip. It has all been done before. Search and find what WORKS and what doesn't.

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Old 02-01-2011 | 02:23 PM
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We typically tell everyone 3500+ on stall speed. Ideally a little bigger with some gear to back it up is the way to go.

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you are gonna optimally want at least a 4000 converter for that cam..........
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4k or bigger IMO. I paired a 4k with a tr224 for a while and it was great. No way a bigger cam wouldn't LOVE a 4k or 4400.
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I wouldnt go that big, just go to there website and look at the duration of the cam you got.
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Im running a 3k with the torquer v 3
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It really depends on the rest of the combo and what you are doing with the car. If you are planning on putting some nitrous on the car, a 4400 is too big. You would need to go a little smaller on the converter b/c it will flash higher on the bottle. If you are driving the car daily, a real high converter might not be what you want either. Just depends how you want the car to drive. That's why I put 3500 minimum. It needs that much to really make the car drive well and work with the cam.

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Depends on wether your gonna spray or go N/A...
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N/A 4-4400 stall, if you spray 3200-3500
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Originally Posted by bryan4694
I wouldnt go that big, just go to there website and look at the duration of the cam you got.
SS4000, end of thread
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Not necessarily. Depending on gear, tire size, power adder, etc. a 4000 could run out of gear. Why we need to know the rest of the mods and plans for the car.

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mods slp lid,TSP LT and y-pipe,and 3.42 gears coming soon Ls6 intake,Ms3 cam,and i think ima go with a 3600 ptc stall
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Originally Posted by SSmoked1
Which stall with a MS3

Stalls and Cams...

MS3 Cam / Converter Combo

MS3 cam only. What do i need???

MS3 in stock A4?

what stall with MS3


That's just the tip. It has all been done before. Search and find what WORKS and what doesn't.

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I cant believe you took the time to do all of that lol
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I say 3800!
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I say go with a bigger gear also,will run much better with a higher gear,I have a Ms4 in my m6,and swapin to 4.10s was the best thing I could have done,ms3,4 really like the taller gears,now I run 4.30s with a lil spray car runs hard
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Originally Posted by Jon@Texas-Speed
Not necessarily. Depending on gear, tire size, power adder, etc. a 4000 could run out of gear. Why we need to know the rest of the mods and plans for the car.

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Im not following you here......Why exactly are you saying a 4k wouldnt be good?
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Im not following you here......Why exactly are you saying a 4k wouldnt be good?
LMAO yea you and half the others that have responded with "get a 8000 stall /thread. thats all you need, trust me, **** your other mods. maybe even go 9000 stall the spray it with a 500 shot"

and yes I know you were being a smartass.
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Not really following your response either. My point was jons rebuttal was that something would run out of gear bc of a 4k stall which has me scratching my head. However, since I know they are some pretty knowledgeable guys at TSP I asked for a clarification of what exactly he was saying. Putting a cam like this with a small stall like a 3200 or something is a good way to get your *** handed to you by a smaller cam/bigger converter car A 4k stall is not that big in all honesty, and with this kind of cam selection who gives a **** about a few extra rpm of stall speed.
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Depending on his gearing and amount of horse power he may or may not be making, a few hundred RPM of stall speed could make the difference in whether he will cross the line at 6800 RPM or 7200 RPM. if he makes peak power at 6500 he doesn't wanna cross the traps at 7200. If he is spraying the ratio of engine RPM to wheel speed will be farther apart then if he is running N/A. A 150 shot off the line will make a 3600 converter flash to possibly 4000, and a 4000 converter flash to possibly 4400 and so on. The way his car is geared and his power adders, (if he is using any) are part of the equation. He wants to cross the finish line at point in his power band where he is making peak power. If his stall is to big and he uses nitrous it may reach his peak power point 80-120 feet prior to the finish line which means he gonna result with slower E.T.'s running a 4000-4400as opposed to a 36-3800 converter...



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