New cams from Tick Performance
I read through this whole thing and don't think I saw it asked anywhere, so I will ask now.
What is the difference in "philosophy" between the Street Heat cams and these SNS? I'm torn between the Street Heat stg 2 and SNS stg 2. I understand what the goals were with the SNS cams. What about the Street Heat ones?
What is the difference in "philosophy" between the Street Heat cams and these SNS? I'm torn between the Street Heat stg 2 and SNS stg 2. I understand what the goals were with the SNS cams. What about the Street Heat ones?
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Got my SNS stage 2 milder installed Friday night and it sounds awesome! I only have a starter tune based off a previous car I built with a similar sized cam but it drives great, with just a simple tune it doesn't surge in neighborhoods or parking lots as long as i'm above 1000 rpm's. It pulls strong and feels great, i'm very pleased with this cam so far and can't wait to see what it does with a full street/dyno tune. Thanks Martin!
I read through this whole thing and don't think I saw it asked anywhere, so I will ask now.
What is the difference in "philosophy" between the Street Heat cams and these SNS? I'm torn between the Street Heat stg 2 and SNS stg 2. I understand what the goals were with the SNS cams. What about the Street Heat ones?
What is the difference in "philosophy" between the Street Heat cams and these SNS? I'm torn between the Street Heat stg 2 and SNS stg 2. I understand what the goals were with the SNS cams. What about the Street Heat ones?
The SNS cams were meant for torque under the curve, and a mean choppy idle to go with it while not sacrificing top end for added low end.
I think you have a lot left in your car. I have a customer with the same cam, stock 243 heads, stock LS6 intake, 370 with 10.3:1 compression and it went 11.5@116 with a 1.60 60'@3550lbs. 3.23 gear and a 3600 stall.
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Alright she has woken up!! Car is stable at cold start, but once warm she dies lol. Gonna book a dyno tune with my tuner soon as possible. Oh btw, gonna upload a cold start video later on tonight
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2002 LS1 Camaro
Engine
5.7L
SLP Lid
Throttle body – stock (Potz ported throttle body just installed but not at the track with it)
Stock MAF
LS6 intake
799 heads, decked .012”, stock except with Brian Tooley springs to match the cam
Stock Rockers
Cam - Tick Performance Street Heat Stage 2, 231/238, .610/.580, LSA113+3, 1800-6400 rpm range
Hooker 1-3/4 headers
TSP y-pipe, cats gutted
Catback – stock (Magnaflow catback just added but not to the track with it)
A4 trans
FTI 4000 converter
Stock rear, 3.23 gear
~26-27” rear tire
Mail order tune
Current Performance
12.23@ 109, 1.68 60’
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Verdad Gallardo It is a TQ ****, with the 3000 stall, 4L80 and 4.88 gears it moves along pretty good. I'm going to do some custom ladder bars for the rear it squats pretty good. @70 mph and 2500rpm stall locked it doesn't miss a beat on steep hills. I might redo the exhaust to a dual 3 inch from the Y back. Can't make my mind up on it yet.
Martin do you have any other dyno graphs of sock cube ls1's running prc 5.3 heads and your sns stage 2 cam 227/235? Also a lot of people in my town are running prc stage 1 ls6 heads and ms3 cams how do you personally think the set up mentioned above would do against them at the track or on the street with similar supporting mods and legit tunes?
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It is a TQ ****, with the 3000 stall, 4L80 and 4.88 gears it moves along pretty good. I'm going to do some custom ladder bars for the rear it squats pretty good. @70 mph and 2500rpm stall locked it doesn't miss a beat on steep hills. I might redo the exhaust to a dual 3 inch from the Y back. Can't make my mind up on it yet.
Here's the warm untuned idle guys http://youtu.be/4rXUg8rz4dg
Martin do you have any other dyno graphs of sock cube ls1's running prc 5.3 heads and your sns stage 2 cam 227/235? Also a lot of people in my town are running prc stage 1 ls6 heads and ms3 cams how do you personally think the set up mentioned above would do against them at the track or on the street with similar supporting mods and legit tunes?
I would say against those MS3 equipped cars that as long as you weren't roll racing above 100-120mph you should be able to jump out in front of them instantly and pull them enough cars to where as long as you don't exceed 100-120mph during the race, they won't be able to make that ground back up.
The great thing about the SNS Stage 2 is that it will jump out in front of the larger cams, but keep them at your rear bumper long enough for the race to be over at the top of 3rd. It having the overlap that it does allows it to pull to 7000rpm in a situation like this and keep a bigger cam car behind it.
I think you will be solidly in the 11's now that it's been dyno tuned.
It is a custom cam for a LS2 with 11.2:1 compression, TFS 225cc CNC heads, Fast 102, 4000 stall in a 3rd gen Camaro.
It is replacing a 239/246 112+3 camshaft so it will be very interesting to see how much power is lost going to the smaller camshaft. Hunter wanted better drivability and more torque than his larger cam was giving him along with hopefully a MPG increase.
What we found was the shift points were both set at 6450 but the 1-2 was happening so fast in the trans there was virtually no delay and it was actually shifting 5900 at the track then 6400 or so for 2-3. We had to raise the 1-2 shift point in the program to get the 1-2 shifting at 6300 or so.
So now the difference between the car and me shifting should be a lot closer. I'm bracket racing mostly in Street 12.00 and slower so I am right at the sweet spot I set out to be. Thanks to Martin and Tick Performance.
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I would honestly shift your engine at 6600-6800rpm for best E.T. and MPH. The EVO it has really carries the torque curve out past peak torque for a long flat horsepower curve after peak power.
I would bump the 1-2 up to at least 6500 and the 2-3 at 6600-6700 so your shift extension starts its recovery at a higher rpm for maximum acceleration in 3rd gear.
I know it has at least a 113ish mph trap speed in the heat in it shifting it where it needs to be shifted at and making the power it should like it is now. I could be wrong depending on where you live though and the DA that you normally race at.
We're spoiled with good air, just not when it's this time of year that's for sure. The air is so thick you can cut it with a spoon.
I would bump the 1-2 up to at least 6500 and the 2-3 at 6600-6700 so your shift extension starts its recovery at a higher rpm for maximum acceleration in 3rd gear.
I know it has at least a 113ish mph trap speed in the heat in it shifting it where it needs to be shifted at and making the power it should like it is now. I could be wrong depending on where you live though and the DA that you normally race at.
We're spoiled with good air, just not when it's this time of year that's for sure. The air is so thick you can cut it with a spoon.
Martin do you have any other dyno graphs of sock cube ls1's running prc 5.3 heads and your sns stage 2 cam 227/235? Also a lot of people in my town are running prc stage 1 ls6 heads and ms3 cams how do you personally think the set up mentioned above would do against them at the track or on the street with similar supporting mods and legit tunes?
I would honestly shift your engine at 6600-6800rpm for best E.T. and MPH. The EVO it has really carries the torque curve out past peak torque for a long flat horsepower curve after peak power.
I would bump the 1-2 up to at least 6500 and the 2-3 at 6600-6700 so your shift extension starts its recovery at a higher rpm for maximum acceleration in 3rd gear.
I know it has at least a 113ish mph trap speed in the heat in it shifting it where it needs to be shifted at and making the power it should like it is now. I could be wrong depending on where you live though and the DA that you normally race at.
We're spoiled with good air, just not when it's this time of year that's for sure. The air is so thick you can cut it with a spoon.
I would bump the 1-2 up to at least 6500 and the 2-3 at 6600-6700 so your shift extension starts its recovery at a higher rpm for maximum acceleration in 3rd gear.
I know it has at least a 113ish mph trap speed in the heat in it shifting it where it needs to be shifted at and making the power it should like it is now. I could be wrong depending on where you live though and the DA that you normally race at.
We're spoiled with good air, just not when it's this time of year that's for sure. The air is so thick you can cut it with a spoon.
Rev limiter is set at 6700 so for now ill stick with what the shift points are for now. Yesterday was a rainout at the track but I expect to now be right at 12 flat. That is perfect for now. The girlfriend is just getting comfortable behind the wheel. Always have the need for speed so ill keep tweaking in between racing. Tks for the input martin.