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Old 10-01-2013, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RyderTA
Decided to throw mine on the dyno today since it was a dyno day and got some numbers. Put down 366/345, that's up 34 hp from before the cam. The most interesting thing is we found out the wideband my car was tuned with is bad, my a/f was 10.8-11.1 the entire run and we had it set to what we thought was 12.75 so there's a good chunk of power left once the new wideband comes in.

My setup is a 01 Camaro with full exhaust, sns stage 2 mild, and K&N hot air intake.
Wow, get that retuned. I'm sure you have more on the table!
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Originally Posted by RyderTA
Decided to throw mine on the dyno today since it was a dyno day and got some numbers. Put down 366/345, that's up 34 hp from before the cam. The most interesting thing is we found out the wideband my car was tuned with is bad, my a/f was 10.8-11.1 the entire run and we had it set to what we thought was 12.75 so there's a good chunk of power left once the new wideband comes in.

My setup is a 01 Camaro with full exhaust, sns stage 2 mild, and K&N hot air intake.
There is at least 10rwhp more and 10rwtq left on the table. If not 15-20rwhp/10-15rwtq.

I would expect 380/365 from your set-up.
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Hi Martin,
Shot you an email last night, not sure if your able to provide advice? - thanks!
I apologize, but I am still answering emails from two days ago. Hopefully I can make my way to it today or this evening.
Old 10-01-2013, 04:23 PM
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I apologize, but I am still answering emails from two days ago. Hopefully I can make my way to it today or this evening.
E-mails for days! I bet it's tough, being "the man!" lol
Old 10-05-2013, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick

Agreed. We see best power at 12.4-12.8. Our dyno's wide band is always .5-1.0 leaner than the wide band we use to tune with.

Most all dyno wide bands read like this from what I have seen, but I'm sure there are some or a lot that don't. I feel it's all where it's positioned in the exhaust.
It's probably because a lot of people's setups contain exhaust leaks they don't even know about, especially if they are using slip fit exhaust joints.

I prefer a bung or pulling a narrowband temporarily.
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Exact reason Geoff always chews my *** about not having a wideband. Yeah, he has one he hooks into the tailpipe, but he'd prefer a bung/wideband where it SHOULD be.

Which is why I bought this
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[QUOTE=CROOKS;17694974]1999 z28
85mm MAF, Fast 92mm combo, 42lb injectors, SNS 2 cam, Kooks 1 7/8" headers, 3" y pipe empty cats through slp lm1 and 2 chamber spintech, yank ss3800, 2.73 rear

358.9 hp 327.2 tq

Putting off compression test for now. I just heard from speedinc something with their dyno brake was dragging and is getting fixed. Car will go back next week to see if anything changes.



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Finally got the car back to speedinc.

370.11 hp 340.18 tq

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Martin, Do you have any dyno graphs of the Torque max Stage 1? Thinking about this am for a DD Z06 with headers and a Haltech intake.
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Originally Posted by gnfan
Martin, Do you have any dyno graphs of the Torque max Stage 1? Thinking about this am for a DD Z06 with headers and a Haltech intake.

Anybody have any experience with this cam?
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I sure don't Frank. All of them have been in trucks or off road buggies so far. Those guys don't normally dyno their stuff.
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well after all the extra work with flycutting and waiting for the extra part i decided to go with my car is running on a base tune.
hopefully martin ca post one of the idle clips on here since i couldn't figure it out!
can't wait to get it to the dyno now
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Shoot me a link to the idle clip and I'll post it up tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by mchicia1
It's probably because a lot of people's setups contain exhaust leaks they don't even know about, especially if they are using slip fit exhaust joints.

I prefer a bung or pulling a narrowband temporarily.
Jonathan is very **** about exhaust leaks before the wide band sensor we install in the collector.

There is no way you can tune a vehicle properly with an exhaust leak before the wide band sensor you're using to tune.

Now after the wide band sensor and narrow bands he could care less as no data is being sent to the ECU past the narrow bands, but you're probably right.

That and the dyno's wide band is all the way at the end of the system, I just don't see how it can be 100% accurate.
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
Jonathan is very **** about exhaust leaks before the wide band sensor we install in the collector.

There is no way you can tune a vehicle properly with an exhaust leak before the wide band sensor you're using to tune.

Now after the wide band sensor and narrow bands he could care less as no data is being sent to the ECU past the narrow bands, but you're probably right.

That and the dyno's wide band is all the way at the end of the system, I just don't see how it can be 100% accurate.
That's what I meant, the tailpipe sensor is way down stream and I haven't really seen a headered car that didn't have leaks after the header collector, through the midpipes, etc. Bung in the header is the best because you only have to worry about the one seal at the head pretty much.
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IMO, even with a perfectly sealed exhaust with no leaks at all up to the tailpipe the WB sensors is always going to read leaner then that actually A/F ratio when checked at the trail pipe since you'll have fresh air influencing the sensor readings.
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Nathan's SNS Stage 2

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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
Exact reason Geoff always chews my *** about not having a wideband. Yeah, he has one he hooks into the tailpipe, but he'd prefer a bung/wideband where it SHOULD be.

Which is why I bought this
I've heard that Wideband wasn't very accurate
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Hey guys heres a tuned idle clip and revs. Love the cam, it just pulls so freaking hard like a train! I just gotta fix the clutch sticking pedal issue and then ill make a drive vids
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455rwhp/415rwtq on board of cam only powa!

You really need to get a set of TEA TFS As cast 220's, 64cc chambers, powdered metal guides and a Fast 92 for that beast.

I'd be willing to bet it would make 500/440.
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Originally Posted by greenvortec97
I've heard that Wideband wasn't very accurate
Turn that frown upside down!

Actually, I haven't heard anything like that. Always positive reviews... ?
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I've heard the NGK AFX wideband with the NTK sensor is the best one... It's plug and play with HPTuners with the analog output, but it doesn't have the serial output for EFI Live. But there are ways around that.


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