EMC similar format with *New info & products*
11-14-2019, 12:05 PM
#322
Pretty cool info...i like how boundries keep gettn pushed. Hope we can see a literal b4 and aftr comparison, but id imagine theres way to many variables for a definitive gain?!?! My guess is, another step towards effeciency. Its been along time since Cary re invented the wheel n left us with a solid program for the Mast label.
11-14-2019, 03:01 PM
#323
What needs to be asked is can u get this with other heads as Mast ports heads now with Darin being there? (Darin has Programs for Many Many Many heads and figure he still does Some 1 off stuff that interest him).. I'll ask if wanted( is the custom port texture for all or just Mast)....
Right now
I'm into welded chamber's 4 Rowdy as to get to around 52 - 54cc from *62cc. Ls3 combos writen Just finish and Dyno.
But, Weld is cheaper < Than new pistons. Wanting to get around 14.0 min....°°°°° may as well build it up we're using Corn so I'd be stupid not to look for more comp.
Ls3 heads have been milled to *62cc also which comes to around 13.0.....
Fill the cylinder .... don't no if I posted here but did post on YB about me asking ER about Y he choose 2 use the Holley Hi Ram over the CID. As 1 of my pet peeves is if it's seen (head cfm #'s) with the intake off I want it Seen with it attached. ER made my choice 4 me & a Ls7 intake. CID takes many Moons to get whipped into shape. I'm not into $2k'ish efi intakes, don't love Hp that much. Holley can flow my peak #'s of 370'ish Easy. Hundreds cheaper being less labor intensive* Get the Taper Correct with the Holley Done! < From ER ... or better said fewer moons of working. Isn't that what it's all about, using what's available?
Right now
I'm into welded chamber's 4 Rowdy as to get to around 52 - 54cc from *62cc. Ls3 combos writen Just finish and Dyno.
But, Weld is cheaper < Than new pistons. Wanting to get around 14.0 min....°°°°° may as well build it up we're using Corn so I'd be stupid not to look for more comp.
Ls3 heads have been milled to *62cc also which comes to around 13.0.....
Fill the cylinder .... don't no if I posted here but did post on YB about me asking ER about Y he choose 2 use the Holley Hi Ram over the CID. As 1 of my pet peeves is if it's seen (head cfm #'s) with the intake off I want it Seen with it attached. ER made my choice 4 me & a Ls7 intake. CID takes many Moons to get whipped into shape. I'm not into $2k'ish efi intakes, don't love Hp that much. Holley can flow my peak #'s of 370'ish Easy. Hundreds cheaper being less labor intensive* Get the Taper Correct with the Holley Done! < From ER ... or better said fewer moons of working. Isn't that what it's all about, using what's available?
Last edited by Smokey B; 11-14-2019 at 04:17 PM.
11-14-2019, 07:00 PM
#324
TECH Senior Member
What needs to be asked is can u get this with other heads as Mast ports heads now with Darin being there? (Darin has Programs for Many Many Many heads and figure he still does Some 1 off stuff that interest him).. I'll ask if wanted( is the custom port texture for all or just Mast)....
11-15-2019, 09:52 AM
#326
Seen a friend finally run it on out and not do the throttle stop. He's a member here & YB
416 LS3 based, stock block, Wiesco +5cc dome pistons, K1 rotating, LS3 OEM heads cnc ported, hyd roller cam, 2110r lifters, CID intake un molested, 1050 dominator, 13.75-1 compression, C14....last weekend 8.912@151.87 2550lbs 3rdgen Camaro
11-15-2019, 12:27 PM
#328
Asked Darin about welding from 62 to around 53 cc or so. Read where AI does welded chamber's for 317's for around $200. Wasn't or can't be the amount of filling I was wanting...P with BES said basically what Darin said on $.
Pistons sound better @ $800.
Welding is out of the question. That would hurt the heads because I can't heat treat. Plus it would cost about $1800.00 to do it.10cc is a HUGE amount of welding.
Takes me 16 hours to do that. It's cool.
Takes me 16 hours to do that. It's cool.
Pistons sound better @ $800.
11-16-2019, 07:46 PM
#329
Like how it this Was°going...simple Saturday night... boring.
Lets see some N/A factory block and head LS carb engine combos
https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/s....php?t=2605661
Lets see some N/A factory block and head LS carb engine combos
https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/s....php?t=2605661
11-19-2019, 02:46 PM
#330
Who'ed ever thought...a 6.0 & Ls3 heads would make 900 before 8500.
Before the 900 same engine
https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/s....php?t=2539297
Top ends with Shawn. Wanted to measure and compare. Posted the ? Of runner height but was in the neighborhood. Pistons & cranking compression for the same short block was my ? with corn. Zach is a distributor of the pistons I've called about. 14.7 compression with 67 cc. Rowdy's at 62. Thought is the engine above with less cam on Corn. 263 @ cam .050 being the max for either cam. 260 as is for Ls3 heads and max comp 13 ish after, Shawn thru. 62 cc nets 13.0 with 0 deck hieght. Rowdy must have the Legal limit for Corn. So 14.5 min. for pistons. Carrillo covers that with room for cutting as it's a solid dome. Research before purchasing or Zach. Cool that he's a dealer. BTW Darth Uncle Jim retired... Sale tax exemption now gone.
Before the 900 same engine
https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/s....php?t=2539297
Top ends with Shawn. Wanted to measure and compare. Posted the ? Of runner height but was in the neighborhood. Pistons & cranking compression for the same short block was my ? with corn. Zach is a distributor of the pistons I've called about. 14.7 compression with 67 cc. Rowdy's at 62. Thought is the engine above with less cam on Corn. 263 @ cam .050 being the max for either cam. 260 as is for Ls3 heads and max comp 13 ish after, Shawn thru. 62 cc nets 13.0 with 0 deck hieght. Rowdy must have the Legal limit for Corn. So 14.5 min. for pistons. Carrillo covers that with room for cutting as it's a solid dome. Research before purchasing or Zach. Cool that he's a dealer. BTW Darth Uncle Jim retired... Sale tax exemption now gone.
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62nalide (11-20-2019)
11-20-2019, 10:37 AM
#331
Who'ed ever thought...a 6.0 & Ls3 heads would make 900 before 8500.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4-PrI9J4LR/
Before the 900 same engine
https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/s....php?t=2539297
Top ends with Shawn. Wanted to measure and compare. Posted the ? Of runner height but was in the neighborhood. Pistons & cranking compression for the same short block was my ? with corn. Zach is a distributor of the pistons I've called about. 14.7 compression with 67 cc. Rowdy's at 62. Thought is the engine above with less cam on Corn. 263 @ cam .050 being the max for either cam. 260 as is for Ls3 heads and max comp 13 ish after, Shawn thru. 62 cc nets 13.0 with 0 deck hieght. Rowdy must have the Legal limit for Corn. So 14.5 min. for pistons. Carrillo covers that with room for cutting as it's a solid dome. Research before purchasing or Zach. Cool that he's a dealer. BTW Darth Uncle Jim retired... Sale tax exemption now gone.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4-PrI9J4LR/
Before the 900 same engine
https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/s....php?t=2539297
Top ends with Shawn. Wanted to measure and compare. Posted the ? Of runner height but was in the neighborhood. Pistons & cranking compression for the same short block was my ? with corn. Zach is a distributor of the pistons I've called about. 14.7 compression with 67 cc. Rowdy's at 62. Thought is the engine above with less cam on Corn. 263 @ cam .050 being the max for either cam. 260 as is for Ls3 heads and max comp 13 ish after, Shawn thru. 62 cc nets 13.0 with 0 deck hieght. Rowdy must have the Legal limit for Corn. So 14.5 min. for pistons. Carrillo covers that with room for cutting as it's a solid dome. Research before purchasing or Zach. Cool that he's a dealer. BTW Darth Uncle Jim retired... Sale tax exemption now gone.
11-20-2019, 10:47 AM
#332
I saw that last week. It is STD correction and running on MS109, which, props to them for laying everything on the table - but probably more like 750-760 whp SAE and regular non-oxygenated fuel. The fuel is going to add 10-20hp, and STD is ~3% higher than SAE.
Seriously very impressive, but not 800whp apples to apples with everything else out there. 700whp below SAE running pump gas with torco.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...-700-rwhp.html
Seriously very impressive, but not 800whp apples to apples with everything else out there. 700whp below SAE running pump gas with torco.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...-700-rwhp.html
11-20-2019, 03:24 PM
#333
Just a 6.0 with a .100 over bore and 4 inch arm. Compression is as hi as they could get it 15 + My Whole thing is having Useable Hp so rpm must be below 8 grand. Not a race engine but a crazy street engine. Compression is free ....
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62nalide (11-20-2019)
11-20-2019, 07:45 PM
#335
Funny thing is there is Nothing special. Compression, S/R, & Ls3 heads. If you read the YB thread that's me asking about boring the lq a 100 over and how many can generally take that much over bore (got a spare bare lq). Dual 4500's is a Lot of fuel and air. Pretty sure it's filled.
11-20-2019, 10:06 PM
#336
Thought about u guy's.....
Project Spinal Tap Makes An Insane 11,230 RPM Dyno Pull
https://www.enginelabs.com/news/proj...rpm-dyno-pull/
11-20-2019, 10:09 PM
#337
SEMA 2019: Chevrolet Performance’s New LSX-SC Cylinder Heads
https://www.enginelabs.com/news/sema...ylinder-heads/
Last edited by Smokey B; 11-20-2019 at 10:16 PM.
11-23-2019, 11:26 AM
#339
I did say Brodix BS is thicker thoughout the head @ a faction of the cost.
https://www.enginebuildermag.com/201...thanol-engine/
https://www.enginebuildermag.com/201...thanol-engine/
11-29-2019, 02:12 AM
#340
Well have a few states to see so $......Shawn >SAM° has the heads for milling and looking over the geometry > 7/16 stud. He Did say the rockers looked good, measurements are better. Anyway Shawn's setting the head up. So I say this Qoute, may as well ($ to play) and it's in budget. Goes like this : we are just filling the cylinders? No Bottle Neck can be Seen! So.....
Zach I would like my FED ls3 heads flowed with the intake attached. I've got Chris Frank flow #'s as well as outside testing #'s from SAM from back in the day° Would like 360 to 370 cfm. I ported the plenum & match a 2 inch spacer. Adding more plenum with a spacer > What a SV 4500 lacks vs the CID amoung other things. But compression being 13'ish with 370cfm to the piston. I wanna know? I will pay. Cost ? Figure a $100.oo Wanted ? If my ls3 SV sees 370 with what I've done..... No reason for a CID, maybe even a Holley for my Ls7 heads. Peak # @ .700- 379 cfm .060 bore. FED Ls3 heads R Lower in cfm & larger port with #'s of: ( 299/212@.400 363/236@.600 371/247@.900 > this is from Flyin 811fwhp 418..... his builder tested his heads & we both used the same stg 1 heads.) Like this intake with dual 4500"s for Ls7 heads.
Welding required > ✓
I keep all the new stuff no need to go to Gen3 external Section.
https://www.holley.com/products/inta.../parts/300-621
Zach I would like my FED ls3 heads flowed with the intake attached. I've got Chris Frank flow #'s as well as outside testing #'s from SAM from back in the day° Would like 360 to 370 cfm. I ported the plenum & match a 2 inch spacer. Adding more plenum with a spacer > What a SV 4500 lacks vs the CID amoung other things. But compression being 13'ish with 370cfm to the piston. I wanna know? I will pay. Cost ? Figure a $100.oo Wanted ? If my ls3 SV sees 370 with what I've done..... No reason for a CID, maybe even a Holley for my Ls7 heads. Peak # @ .700- 379 cfm .060 bore. FED Ls3 heads R Lower in cfm & larger port with #'s of: ( 299/212@.400 363/236@.600 371/247@.900 > this is from Flyin 811fwhp 418..... his builder tested his heads & we both used the same stg 1 heads.) Like this intake with dual 4500"s for Ls7 heads.
Welding required > ✓
I keep all the new stuff no need to go to Gen3 external Section.
https://www.holley.com/products/inta.../parts/300-621
Last edited by Smokey B; 11-29-2019 at 02:39 AM.