LS1 LS2 sawp on f-body
12-28-2008, 04:06 PM
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LS1 LS2 sawp on f-body hi, i own a 2000 T/A with a ls1, m6. i am considering swaping out my LS1 for a LS2 out of a GTO or Vette. i was wondering what major challenges i would face in the trans plant. ideally i wouldlike to get an LS2 and rebuild it or just ad preformancce parts, (heads, cam, intake, the usual) then drop it in my T/A. any thoughts guys???
12-28-2008, 11:26 PM
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12-29-2008, 12:43 AM
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No it was the ls6 block that they came with. some 01-02's had it. The ls2 is different from the ls1. I would imagine it's a swap that's more trouble than it's worth. for the couple grand you spend on an ls2 you could do some major work to your ls1 and have a lot more power and still spend less money.
12-29-2008, 02:07 AM
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If your using a bare ls2 block and don't want to tear down your current ls motor, or don't have another LS motor here is a list of parts you will need. You can get the entire kit for LS2 or 3 or customize this list for you project from sponsors or other souces.
12570471 LS2 Valley cover 83.06
12594779 PVC tube 9.01
12600325 ls2 front cover
12602548 Coolant crossover pipe 20.24
12602540 Coolant Caps (2) 4.71 each
11588714 Coolant pipe/cap bolts (4) 2.64 each
12615666 Rear crankshaft seal housing
12574293 Gasket for above 14.86
12556127 Bolts for above housing (12)
89060436 Rear Crank seal 13.50
12573460 Oil galley rear plug w/seal 4.39
11588949 Oil plug side (2) 4.71 each
9427693 Water drain plug front (4) 2.64 each
1453658 Trans dowel (2) 2.57 each
11609289 Water Drain Plug - Hex 7.23
12589016 Cam retainer Plate
11515756 Camshaft retainer Plate bolt (4)
12570125 *LS2 knock sensors (2)
12589867 *LS1 Knock sensors (2)
12585546 *LS2 Crankshaft Sensor
12585546 *LS1 Crankshaft Senor 50.00
11515756 Crank Sensor Bolt .43
12586481 LS2 Cam Gear
12556127 Cam gear bolt
12556582 LS2 Crank Gear
12586482 LS2 Timing chain
12588670 Timing Chain Dampener 11.55
12598831 LS2 Balancer
12557840 Balancer Bolt
12595365 Valve lifter Cups (4)
12551163 Valve Lifter Cup bolts (4)
12551926 Water Pump Bolts (6) 2.64 each
ARP 134 3610 LS2 Head bolts LS2004 and newer
ARP 134 3609 LS2 Head bolts LS pre 2004
ARP 234 5608 LS main stud Kit
Prices may or may not be accurate, but are close.
12570471 LS2 Valley cover 83.06
12594779 PVC tube 9.01
12600325 ls2 front cover
12602548 Coolant crossover pipe 20.24
12602540 Coolant Caps (2) 4.71 each
11588714 Coolant pipe/cap bolts (4) 2.64 each
12615666 Rear crankshaft seal housing
12574293 Gasket for above 14.86
12556127 Bolts for above housing (12)
89060436 Rear Crank seal 13.50
12573460 Oil galley rear plug w/seal 4.39
11588949 Oil plug side (2) 4.71 each
9427693 Water drain plug front (4) 2.64 each
1453658 Trans dowel (2) 2.57 each
11609289 Water Drain Plug - Hex 7.23
12589016 Cam retainer Plate
11515756 Camshaft retainer Plate bolt (4)
12570125 *LS2 knock sensors (2)
12589867 *LS1 Knock sensors (2)
12585546 *LS2 Crankshaft Sensor
12585546 *LS1 Crankshaft Senor 50.00
11515756 Crank Sensor Bolt .43
12586481 LS2 Cam Gear
12556127 Cam gear bolt
12556582 LS2 Crank Gear
12586482 LS2 Timing chain
12588670 Timing Chain Dampener 11.55
12598831 LS2 Balancer
12557840 Balancer Bolt
12595365 Valve lifter Cups (4)
12551163 Valve Lifter Cup bolts (4)
12551926 Water Pump Bolts (6) 2.64 each
ARP 134 3610 LS2 Head bolts LS2004 and newer
ARP 134 3609 LS2 Head bolts LS pre 2004
ARP 234 5608 LS main stud Kit
Prices may or may not be accurate, but are close.
12-29-2008, 09:15 AM
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Sounds like more trouble than it's worth, like black said. You can get plenty of power out of your stock block, use the money on the motor you already have, and still have a matching # car with a correct odometer. My two cents.
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12-29-2008, 04:16 PM
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Like said above. Use the money you have for upgrading the LS1. Really the only difference between Gen III and Gen VI blocks is the crank sensor is in the front on the Gen VI blocks, Gen VI uses a Timing chain tensioner. Theres more I just cant think of them off the top of my head. But both or aluminum so your not gaining or losing anything there. If you plan on swapping in a GenVI go LS3 and go huge. Just my two cents.
12-29-2008, 08:02 PM
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as someone who actually did a ls1 to ls2 swap in my own car the swap is so easy your gonna wonder y u did do it before. now in my situation i did buy an ls2 complete running with all of its covers. so half that list show is done the real change over that actually takes place is the extension cable for the cam position sensor and knock sensors witch people make premade cables for that so its litterly a plug and play system. and thats about the most change over u have to do along with a tune but thats it oh yea and make sure the motor has the correct reluctor wheel
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12-29-2008, 09:25 PM
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What bottlefed01z28 is correct......I actually did a ls1 to ls2 swap in my own car (a 98 TA)the swap is easy . I did buy an ls2 long block with all of its covers. The real change is the extension cable for the cam position sensor and knock sensors witch I bought premade cables for that so its litterly a plug and play . Thats the most change you have to do along with a tune but you must make sure the motor has the correct reluctor wheel...... I put on my LS6 intake & TR 230 cam ...Crane dual springs... put down 435 at the wheels.... The reason I went with the LS2 is my LS1 ..the factory rocker broke & dumped the needle bearings in the motor.... hope this helps.. PM with any questions
