Originally Posted by Ju1ce

We're not even talking about turbos or air to air intercoolers... We're talking about roots heat pumps and air to water intercoolers.

Clearly you're not equipped to be in such a discussion.

Originally Posted by Ju1ce

We're not even talking about turbos or air to air intercoolers... We're talking about roots heat pumps and air to water intercoolers.

Clearly you're not equipped to be in such a discussion.

Originally Posted by willizm

You are saying a drop in temps is not important, I can't help but think you are talking about intake air temperature(IAT) as the topic is about an IC. Air-to-Air intercooler don't move fluid so not sure why you mentioned fluid channels anyway. I'm saying an IC does help, but no 50whp is going to come of it on that platform. Maybe on an ls1 pushing 600-700+whp would you see an increase of 50whp, but expecting a 240whp engine to gain 50whp from an IC upgrade is laughable.

You do know that I have two turbo cars right? Both of which have air to air intercoolers and collectively both cars make over 1000whp. I think I have a much better understanding of an intercoolers function. Unless you push some serious hp, those intercoolers are going to give you 10-20whp. If you want 50+whp you are going to have to do some sort of methanol injection to drop IAT's further while upping the octane during spark which will allow you to run more boost and timing while being more knock resistant.

Originally Posted by willizm

Even if it's an A2W IC, where is this dyno showing 50whp gains that you claim to have seen? I'm still waiting. Sorry, I pass the ***** supercharged stuff and go right for the turbo setup and even then A2W and A2A IC's have the same effect of dropping IAT so what is your point?

Originally Posted by FuryZ28

Wow you really are stupid aren't you? It's an Air-to-WATER intercooler. LOL! Quit talking about **** you have ZERO knowledge about.

And I was talking about the power gains with the same pulley/timing. That's what people hardly care about. They want to take full advantage of the IC by dropping pulleys and advancing timing.

Originally Posted by FuryZ28

It says 50whp gains right on ZZP's website, smart guy. Are you saying that they are lying?

Originally Posted by willizm

Even if it's an A2W IC, where is this dyno showing 50whp gains that you claim to have seen? I'm still waiting. Sorry, I pass the ***** supercharged stuff and go right for the turbo setup and even then A2W and A2A IC's have the same effect of dropping IAT so what is your point?

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

Why does the GTPuss need boost to go fast anyways? FI and only running 14's.

Originally Posted by Ju1ce

My point is that you're lost. You're not educated on the subject and you dont wish to be educated either. I tried explaining things to you in a civilized manner and you chose to ignore the information and try to belittle me. Your purpose in this thread is not intelligent discussion... It's for chest pounding and e-hardness.

Originally Posted by Ju1ce

Your game is old and tired... Much like your car.

Originally Posted by willizm

You are saying I'm uneducated buy you can't give me any data to back up your claims meanwhile I'm actually finding concrete unbiased data to contradict your claim. Ju1ce this board thinks your a joke and honestly I gave you the benefit of the doubt on a lot of things, but this is the tactic you resort to when you are caught up in your own stupidity.

What have you offered in this thread to backup your claims? Hell you say you ran an 11 yet you can't produce a shred of evidence.

Originally Posted by Ju1ce

You found evidence of someone who ran a short stack intercooler and did nothing to change the boost or timing to take advantage of the intercooler. Most people agree the short stack is a waste of time. It's not surprising at all that he only gained 14whp without changing the tune or pulley.

I could post some proof of my 11 second claims but all that will lead to is more skeptics who want more and more proof. I've been down that road before and these people (you) are not interested in being proven wrong so you will stop at nothing to demand more.

Case in point...


There's a shred

Originally Posted by Srt4King

WTF happened to my thread?


furyz28...

What's faster, your silver GTP sedan, or your entry level trim Mystic Z28?


It's not like I couldn't tell it was you Verz. You shouldn't call people "Ace" while trying to hide yourself, you're the only douche that uses that nickname.

Originally Posted by R6cowboy

The same thing that happens to many threads in SR&K, its goes to complete **** and ends up having xx amount of pages with nothing to do with the thread topic.

Originally Posted by Ju1ce

Your game is old and tired... Much like your car.

Originally Posted by R6cowboy

The same thing that happens to many threads in SR&K, its goes to complete **** and ends up having xx amount of pages with nothing to do with the thread topic.

Originally Posted by Ju1ce

You found evidence of someone who ran a short stack intercooler and did nothing to change the boost or timing to take advantage of the intercooler. Most people agree the short stack is a waste of time. It's not surprising at all that he only gained 14whp without changing the tune or pulley.

I could post some proof of my 11 second claims but all that will lead to is more skeptics who want more and more proof. I've been down that road before and these people (you) are not interested in being proven wrong so you will stop at nothing to demand more.

Case in point...


There's a shred