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#1623
because a pulley would push it passed 10psi.
Have there been an ls3 vettes to do a full exhaust and a novi 2200 on 10lbs?
Have there been an ls3 vettes to do a full exhaust and a novi 2200 on 10lbs?
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Dude, this whole thread is ridiculous. And this whole new argument started with Hio saying his car could/would/should/doesn'tbutimadumbass on whatever boost Heater was running. Then he tried to say he needed a blower matched to the engine, and not the same blower he was running, and blah blah blah blah blah. All I get from this thread is that even automach now makes more sense than Hio.
#1626
Dude, this whole thread is ridiculous. And this whole new argument started with Hio saying his car could/would/should/doesn'tbutimadumbass on whatever boost Heater was running. Then he tried to say he needed a blower matched to the engine, and not the same blower he was running, and blah blah blah blah blah. All I get from this thread is that even automach now makes more sense than Hio.
#1627
You act like 1 point of compression is worth 50hp....note the case....nowhere near the case.
You don't know what you are talking about it is a lot more the 1 point.
yep....as Adam stated both stuffed in the wrong gear.....neither by me.
I did that countless times in the 3v I use to have and it never blew up.
Hotrod did a article and a 4.8 that they thought was a 5.3 junkyard motor.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/h...g_bang_theory/
Biggest problem with force inducing these engines are the n/a ring gaps. Once that's right they are are pretty tough.
Maybe it would only make 750...idk I'll never do one and I don't like to speak for other.
I do not like to speak for others aka you are right I know I was reaching with my 800+ claim.
Little different......your all out build to show us the potential of the n/a 4v went to ****.....vs......cars being put in the wrong gear. That's a huge difference actually.
All out? No not at all it is on pump gas, stock heads and cubes. Regardless the motor never blew up it had vavletrain problems. Yet I will not get into excuses on why like you always do.
So now n/a 4v's make 360rwhp with bolt-ons??? What's wrong with yours?
There are a couple making 35x std with boltons.
Ls3's can go well over 400whp with bolt-ons. They should make more than my ls6.
Alot don't live to 1/2 that. Do a search about all the voodoo bullshit to keep those things alive. Running a extra qt of oil, long cool downs, no 5th gear pulls, head cooling mods
Lol with a good tune and smart driving those stock motors last with big power. Don't start with your off the wall bs.
Just as you stated. I hated it when my ls1 got broke. It was a pretty strong one. Ended up good though. That's the sucky part about a pushrod engine. But all engines has their advantages and disadvantages.
As far as this "If you put half the time and effort into as you did the Camaro It would be leaps and bounds faster then the Camaro."
I don't know which will be faster in the end. Notch and I agree the Camaro would've handed the notch it's *** before. But now running at more boost and a ported blower it should be close. The notch has a ton of time in it, at this point the notch has MORE mods.....it's a real engine swap vs replacement engine. The Camaro can do much more than the notch. It handles better and stops better. The notch is more drag oriented. Brakes are lighter on the notch, chassis is lighter on the notch but overall weight the notch will be heavier with a worse front bias than the Camaro. Some of the mods done to the Camaro just can't be done to the notch or would be pointless and possibly make it perform worse. Should be a good run.
I'm sure we will run them at some point....lol
You don't know what you are talking about it is a lot more the 1 point.
yep....as Adam stated both stuffed in the wrong gear.....neither by me.
I did that countless times in the 3v I use to have and it never blew up.
Hotrod did a article and a 4.8 that they thought was a 5.3 junkyard motor.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/h...g_bang_theory/
Biggest problem with force inducing these engines are the n/a ring gaps. Once that's right they are are pretty tough.
Maybe it would only make 750...idk I'll never do one and I don't like to speak for other.
I do not like to speak for others aka you are right I know I was reaching with my 800+ claim.
Little different......your all out build to show us the potential of the n/a 4v went to ****.....vs......cars being put in the wrong gear. That's a huge difference actually.
All out? No not at all it is on pump gas, stock heads and cubes. Regardless the motor never blew up it had vavletrain problems. Yet I will not get into excuses on why like you always do.
So now n/a 4v's make 360rwhp with bolt-ons??? What's wrong with yours?
There are a couple making 35x std with boltons.
Ls3's can go well over 400whp with bolt-ons. They should make more than my ls6.
Alot don't live to 1/2 that. Do a search about all the voodoo bullshit to keep those things alive. Running a extra qt of oil, long cool downs, no 5th gear pulls, head cooling mods
Lol with a good tune and smart driving those stock motors last with big power. Don't start with your off the wall bs.
Just as you stated. I hated it when my ls1 got broke. It was a pretty strong one. Ended up good though. That's the sucky part about a pushrod engine. But all engines has their advantages and disadvantages.
As far as this "If you put half the time and effort into as you did the Camaro It would be leaps and bounds faster then the Camaro."
I don't know which will be faster in the end. Notch and I agree the Camaro would've handed the notch it's *** before. But now running at more boost and a ported blower it should be close. The notch has a ton of time in it, at this point the notch has MORE mods.....it's a real engine swap vs replacement engine. The Camaro can do much more than the notch. It handles better and stops better. The notch is more drag oriented. Brakes are lighter on the notch, chassis is lighter on the notch but overall weight the notch will be heavier with a worse front bias than the Camaro. Some of the mods done to the Camaro just can't be done to the notch or would be pointless and possibly make it perform worse. Should be a good run.
I'm sure we will run them at some point....lol
#1629
I can say my 5.0 modular forged motor would make near 700whp on 10 psi through a novi 2200. Thats with the boss intake. Prob hit 700 with the cobra jet. My motor is also 11:1 and makes a good bit of power without boost. With the exception of the ls7... i dont think any stock longblock would make that power on 10lbs. Unless its turbo...but i too would make more with a turbo setup.
Have a buddy with a 2200 on a Boss motor in his 2011 GT. I think 12# of boost, mt-82 car then, stock manifolds to off rd mid pipe and GT500 axle backs and self tuned. Car has made 747 hp for about a yr and a half now. Heater knows the car and can vouch that I'm not bull shitting.
#1630
i believe you... when i say 700whp... im talking all conservative tuning. As in back down on the timing so it runs forever. Im all set with detonation. But as much as id love to run a novi 2200... this car will forever be a max effort stock motor na car. Its fun to me.
#1632
TECH Enthusiast
gt500's hit 700-750rwhp with bolt ons. its not the comparison in my mind.
#1634
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I'll meet you there too Stoppy and run you. I'll only be on DR's though so I do not think I will be able to match your 60ft.
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Here are some pictures that were taken at Dragging Rights of my car and some others cars.
Packy's car
This is a aerial view from a Quadcopter of the track at the last Dragging Rights.
Packy's car
This is a aerial view from a Quadcopter of the track at the last Dragging Rights.
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Have a buddy with a 2200 on a Boss motor in his 2011 GT. I think 12# of boost, mt-82 car then, stock manifolds to off rd mid pipe and GT500 axle backs and self tuned. Car has made 747 hp for about a yr and a half now. Heater knows the car and can vouch that I'm not bull shitting.
It's not a Boss engine is it, it's just a forged Coyote motor???
Boss engine would make more than a Coyote.
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