ZeroFear

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I have a 01 Z with just a lid and shifter. A guy at the local car hang out spot has a 1998 Prelude SH with a T3/TO4B turbo running 8lbs ( my friend who knows him says he will use race gas and bump to 13-14lbs for the race ). He also has the other usual stuff such as tune, full exhaust, intake , clutch. The story is just like all the others so I wont bleed the details, lets just say he ends up offering to race me for $500. We havnt worked out the details of if it will be from a 20mph roll or dead stop.

Would my stock LS1 beat his moderate turbo prelude? I know stock preludes run like 15 flat. Would a turbo boost it all the way to low 13s? I'm thinking even with all his mods, its only pushing maybe 280hp to the wheels and is high 13s at the most. I ran a 13.04 last fall.

I don't know much about rice burners so any fair warning would be nice. Thanks.

six_string_wiz

All I have to add is ,if youre betting 500$,race from a dig.Torque is on your side.

m_ghonim

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if he raises the boost to 13 he'll prolly blow his **** up. Set that **** up, you'll get him. Just know how to launch your ****!!!!!!!!!Can't be stressed enough.

Marc 85Z28

iTrader: (8)

Put a 150 dry shot on it and go from a stop. Hide the system very well (why I suggested a dry shot) and only use it if necessary.

crazboy99

you have a 99% chance of whooping his ***...the other 1% is driver error...preludes are nice for dd...but that about it...now if he was playin in twisties...handling of those are better....but this aint the slow and curious

MillaTK

I guess I'll be the first to say he is probably faster than you think. I'd be careful if he's running 13-14 PSI.

djsanchez2

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If he's boosting 13-14 psi then he has a built engine. Race him from a dig, street tire to street tire. And don't fall for the old Azenies street tire trick either they stick like Nitto DR's.
ABSOLUTELY NO ROLL RACES WITH A H22 BOOSTING 14psi!! Until you are modded that is.
Make it work for you, Give him the crappy lane, pick the flagger (and steal the move), agree chase is a race, agree a break is a pay (out of burnout box of course), hell try and get one of his boys to drive the car if he has slicks. If you can, get a lil insurance, 100-125hp shot is not really noticable on an f-body w/ stock exhaust (use that).
Dry shot under/through the filter, or AIR tube, how ever best you can hide it. To prevent wheel spin hit the button in second, and DO NOT let off it til you shut down.

BTW: I in no way condone street racing, nor do i participate in such activities.

PhoenixRising

Spoken like a REAL car guy.

91 LS1 Z28

My cousin has a civic with a H22 in it I belive pushing around 20 pounds of boost with 500 hp to the wheels with dyno sheets to back the numbers. My guess is his car weighs less then yours by a few hundred pounds at least and if he is making the same amount of power to the wheels almost my guess is power to weight will own you. I am guessing that he has run other LS1 cars before and has beaten them or why would he put $500 on the line like nothing.

gangbang malloy

u should try using vht trackbite compound on the tires from a dig so u can launch on his ***. but if u only have a lid and a shifter i dont know about that buddy. when the other guy has a power adder all bets are off. i can guarantee u that he is lying about his boost and for 500 bucks?!?!? come on man. i would not race him with just those mods, if u DO win, it will be a really tight race, too close for comfort.

sidewayz28

iTrader: (24)

true^, and if ur guna race him do it from a dig.. and dont go farther than a 1/4 shut it down at like 115-120ish or something

djsanchez2

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Oh yeah you pick the course and measure it like 200ft. short. before hand. The less chance he has to catch you. Cuz it WILL have topend, despite traction issuses.

VHT doesn't really help on street tires does it? Never tried, HAHAHA!!! Always run DR's to race.

NightWindDriftr

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Go ahead and race him, but not for $500. Take $250 and try to lay it on his Prelude SH(it) from a dig. 13.04 is an awesome time given your mods, so at least we know you can drive. Good luck!

NightWindDriftr

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Somebody here is a street racing veteran.

Is that sig quote real?

djsanchez2

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NO, No i just read ALOT of internet race stories.

gangbang malloy

ohhhhhh yes it does been there down that several times. thats y i highly recomend that for any type of tire. oh and by the way... u might wanna try to freeze/chill the intake manifold with icepacks for a good long time. our engines love the cold charge. and lose some weight if you can i.e. spare tire 1/4 tank of gas or less.

djsanchez2

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Yes there was a thread about it the other day.

Irunelevens

Don't run from a roll... if he has 280whp (which he should/could), it's gonna be REAL interesting at higher speeds.

bboyferal

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I'll be the first to say it... I don't think he'll win. That's just my opinion.

Sparetire

The TO4B cold-side is so-so IMO, but it should be able to feed 2.2L less than 15PSI no problem. IIRC the E cover is much much better.

Not so sure its a good idea if all this is accurate. The thing is, if it runs like *** and has no decent AFR and timing curve the car will be pretty slow. The thing with these apps is that detail work becomes very important. A few degrees of timing and a stable AFR are worth 50HP easy over a bad tune, not to mention the powerband being wider etc.

If it were me, I would offer to run for 50 bucks. Go from a dig and just have fun with it. I think it will be close, but it sounds like he will have a power to weight advantage.