jph2275

ls1tech,

I own a 2002 camaro SS A4 3.23 gears

My bro owns a 2001 camaro z28 A4 3.23 gears ... hardtop to boot

Ive added a HSW nitrous kit, headers, borla catback, lid, and an HP tune

His is bone stock except a chokemaster muffler

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So heres the setup:

Ive been driving his around lately and it feels SSSSSSSSLLLLLOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW

I mean, i know ive been driving a modded ls1 around, but come on, my bros feels like granny smith apples slow

Maybe I just dont remember how driving a stock ls1 fbody feels? Or his is a dog? Possibly abused (although it does not at all look or drive like it has been)?

Tune perhaps? Do some cars come stock with better tunes?

I just feel like when MINE was stock, it was still apples to oranges... mine stock ran a 13.4 ... his feels like a high 13 second car....

My SS also feels more planted, and sturdy by comparison to the Z (and his has better tires, i have bald sumitomos)...

dont SS's have "thicker" suspension components (or is it just sway bars?) I know ive got bigger wheels than him...

I KNOW an ls1 is an ls1 is an ls1 is an ls1 is an ls1

But what gives? I feel a difference between the SS and the Z


ALL COMMENTS WELCOME

BTW im taking both our cars to the dyno on saturday... tuning his car as a first mod... curious to see how a stock car responds to tuning...

KrisXpc

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Bone stock F-bodies always feel slow as hell if your used to any power. This is nothing new.

ballerchris510

Has nothing to do ive smoked plenty of SS's its the same thing ram air is the only diff which isnt much at all...

lemons12

iTrader: (71)

It is in your head... My girlfriends car has ls6 cam ls6 intake 373s full exhaust blah blah blah..
I have a H/C stalled car..

Hers feels dog slow and it would walk a stock ls1..

homerunhtr21

iTrader: (18)

Z28's sucks period. I dont know why anybody would waste money on one when EVERYBODY knows that an SS will walk a Z anyday.

LT1Formula007

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The others are right man. It's in your head.
I have a 403 stroker in my camaro and my brother has a Full bolt on, stalled, ms4/prc ls6 headed, rebuilt stock cubed bottom end- Trans Am, and his is by no means slow, but it feels that way when I drive his.

Just deal with the fact that after you reach a certain point with your car, you'll never be content with anything less.

NSSANE02

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The title of this thread makes me want to slap somebody... His car is/could be slower for many reasons, Z28 vs SS is NOT one of them. A full exhaust and tune will make a decent difference in power and more importantly it will sound and feel much faster.

streetassasin

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You can run my slow z28, you on spray me on motor

intense3123

When I bought my car the previous owner had put SS badges on it. 3 days later I put Z28 badges back on it. The difference was night and day, I must have lost at least half a second

71novaguy

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wouldnt a bald tire actually stick a little better because there is more contact?

NSSANE02

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NSSANE02

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No...

-98-Z28-Darkness-

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actually probably yes depending on the tires...
my bfgoodrich drags radials have no tread watsoever in the middle and i launch the hell after a good warmup lol but i doubt it with street tires.
but then all i got is a slow z28 someone have SS badges so i can be fast!!!!

Bugsy

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The OP does have a point. A friend of mine has an '02 Z28. After he became frustrated with the lack of power, he replaced the Z28 badges with SS badges. That modification alone netted him 50 horsepower. Then he ditched the SS badges in favor of VTEC stickers.....and gained an additional 50.

jph2275

I knew titleing my thread in such a way would bring everyone in... and it did

Believe me guys... I know an ls1 is an ls1 is an ls1 is an ls1 is an ls1

I guess i just had to hear it again on a bolt on car vs. a stock car .... I just forgot how far I had come on just mere bolt ons i guess

cool to know

and street assassin

I dont know where grapevine is, but im not driving there to get my *** handed to me

NSSANE02

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I'll take that deal

MelScrilla

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Damn you beat me to it.

SS badge.......................the new Vtec

01ssreda4

iTrader: (96)

Only some of the SSs got the upgraded suspension. It should state it on your passenger door tag. It was a complete package that pulled better numbers on the skidpad. Swaybars, shocks, springs, the whole deal. Mine has it and it will go around corners way faster then Im comfortable going.

Hater

alexplantman

cliffs notes, op....

I will tell you the SS makes it 123 hp more!!! Slap the decals on and see

streetassasin

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wtf where did you get grapevine from?
let me get a good tune on it and I just might take ya up on that, my cirlcle d 4c is going in right now