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Old 05-15-2013, 05:35 PM
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It don't take much to get a lt to run 13.0's........it sure don't take a slick.
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In all seriousness I have NEVER in 10 years seen a stock Mach 1 go any quicker than 13.5@ like 103.xx, and I frequent both local tracks A LOT! So can someone tell me where to find these Mach 1's that run 13.2 stock and whoop on LSWon's?
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It don't take much to get a lt to run 13.0's........it sure don't take a slick.
Yep, bolt-ons will do it no problem. Full weight, no slicks.
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Originally Posted by Demon 383
In all seriousness I have NEVER in 10 years seen a stock Mach 1 go any quicker than 13.5@ like 103.xx, and I frequent both local tracks A LOT! So can someone tell me where to find these Mach 1's that run 13.2 stock and whoop on LSWon's?
Those times you quoted are more for automatic MACH 1s. The 5 speed is a much quicker car.
Regardless, the car is quite capable of running low 13's but like anything other car, it has to be driven to its potential.
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Originally Posted by MACHXLR8
Those times you quoted are more for automatic MACH 1s. The 5 speed is a much quicker car.
Regardless, the car is quite capable of running low 13's but like anything other car, it has to be driven to its potential.
This is what always throws me for a loop. How's a 3400# car with 27XRWHP a low 13-second car? Albeit, in prime conditions maybe, but on average the times I've seen out of them seem on par for the power/weight.
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Originally Posted by MACHXLR8
Those times you quoted are more for automatic MACH 1s. The 5 speed is a much quicker car.
Regardless, the car is quite capable of running low 13's but like anything other car, it has to be driven to its potential.
The one i raced was stock (owner of a dealer got one on a trade in. 40k miles was yellow/black). that's why I figured they were mid-low 13 cars
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Originally Posted by Demon 383
This is what always throws me for a loop. How's a 3400# car with 27XRWHP a low 13-second car? Albeit, in prime conditions maybe, but on average the times I've seen out of them seem on par for the power/weight.
Gearing...The Tremec 3650 in addition with the 3.55 gear ratio work well together. In addition, the car does not weigh much. As you stated 3450lbs. It also makes good torque at 320ft/lbs and continues to makes power to about 6300rpms. It is not always about Hp..sometimes it is the combination of things that can make a car quick.
Not trying to blow sunshine up the MACH1's a$$, just trying to come up with some possible reasons.
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Originally Posted by MACHXLR8
Gearing...The Tremec 3650 in addition with the 3.55 gear ratio work well together. In addition, the car does not weigh much. As you stated 3450lbs. It also makes good torque at 320ft/lbs and continues to makes power to about 6300rpms. It is not always about Hp..sometimes it is the combination of things that can make a car quick.
Not trying to blow sunshine up the MACH1's a$$, just trying to come up with some possible reasons.
What's a typical trap for a Mach?
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Originally Posted by Demon 383
This is what always throws me for a loop. How's a 3400# car with 27XRWHP a low 13-second car? Albeit, in prime conditions maybe, but on average the times I've seen out of them seem on par for the power/weight.
That actually sound about right. It takes 300whp to hit 12s at that weight. So maybe that's why a stock ls1 can break 12s easy with a good tire
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The truth of the matter is for every bottom 13 stock Mach there is a high 12 stock ls1 car (evidence on here suggest its one is more common than the other.) Neither are 'easy' feats and both take near perfect conditions and a great driver (Evan smith, stopsign, etc ).

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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
The truth of the matter is for every bottom 13 stock Mach there is a high 12 stok ls1 car (evidence on here suggest its one is more common than the other.) Neither are 'easy' feats and both take near perfect conditions and a great driver.
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Originally Posted by Demon 383
If that LT1 has any motor work done to it then what are you going to do, order a blower right?
If the imaginary LT1 with full bolt ons that could "prob" beat me had some imaginary "motor work" done to it, I guess I could slap on an imaginary blower. f'in tard
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Originally Posted by Demon 383
In all seriousness I have NEVER in 10 years seen a stock Mach 1 go any quicker than 13.5@ like 103.xx, and I frequent both local tracks A LOT! So can someone tell me where to find these Mach 1's that run 13.2 stock and whoop on LSWon's?
And I've never seen a stock LS1 run better than 13.7

And since when do a Mach 1 dyno 27Xrwhp? This site ooozes with Mustang knowledge.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
And I've never seen a stock LS1 run better than 13.7

And since when do a Mach 1 dyno 27Xrwhp? This site ooozes with Mustang knowledge.
I'll let you know what I run tomorrow in the 1.8 96Z28 LS1/4L60E swapped, LS1 intake stock manifolds into SLP LM1 LT1 Intake 3.23 rear gear. Motor and trans are stock. Its essentially a 2000 SS I used as a donor.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
And I've never seen a stock LS1 run better than 13.7

And since when do a Mach 1 dyno 27Xrwhp? This site ooozes with Mustang knowledge.
what do they make then?
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
The truth of the matter is for every bottom 13 stock Mach there is a high 12 stock ls1 car (evidence on here suggest its one is more common than the other.) Neither are 'easy' feats and both take near perfect conditions and a great driver (Evan smith, stopsign, etc ).
I agree.

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If the imaginary LT1 with full bolt ons that could "prob" beat me had some imaginary "motor work" done to it, I guess I could slap on an imaginary blower. f'in tard
Always swift with the insults huh? Yep over the internet...

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
And I've never seen a stock LS1 run better than 13.7

And since when do a Mach 1 dyno 27Xrwhp? This site ooozes with Mustang knowledge.
Be honest with yourself. Don't lie just to prove a point.
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Mach 1 = average mid/high 13sec car
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
If the imaginary LT1 with full bolt ons that could "prob" beat me had some imaginary "motor work" done to it, I guess I could slap on an imaginary blower. f'in tard
You do realize full bolt-on lt's have been in the 11's right. There was a recent thread on here where another guy did it.
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And I've never seen a stock LS1 run better than 13.7

And since when do a Mach 1 dyno 27Xrwhp? This site ooozes with Mustang knowledge.
You must not get out much.
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If you want a realistic comparison of what a particular car can do, why bother talking about "average" times? If I'm trying to figure out if I can beat somebody, I wanna know what they can do on a great day. Stopsign ran a 13.2 with just an H-pipe and a shifter. His first time at the track with that car. So it isn't much of a stretch to imagine that a good driver in good conditions with some practice couldn't equal that time minus the ~5hp that the H-pipe gives.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
If you want a realistic comparison of what a particular car can do, why bother talking about "average" times? If I'm trying to figure out if I can beat somebody, I wanna know what they can do on a great day. Stopsign ran a 13.2 with just an H-pipe and a shifter. His first time at the track with that car. So it isn't much of a stretch to imagine that a good driver in good conditions with some practice couldn't equal that time minus the ~5hp that the H-pipe gives.

I agree completely... When I first had my car I never looked at a stock Mach 1 and laughed.. I assumed it was going to run right with me every time and I needed to be on top of my ****. Maybe I had very little to worry about but I always assume the other driver is going to run their best.
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