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In all seriousness I have NEVER in 10 years seen a stock Mach 1 go any quicker than 13.5@ like 103.xx, and I frequent both local tracks A LOT! So can someone tell me where to find these Mach 1's that run 13.2 stock and whoop on LSWon's?
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Regardless, the car is quite capable of running low 13's but like anything other car, it has to be driven to its potential.
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This is what always throws me for a loop. How's a 3400# car with 27XRWHP a low 13-second car? Albeit, in prime conditions maybe, but on average the times I've seen out of them seem on par for the power/weight.
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Not trying to blow sunshine up the MACH1's a$$, just trying to come up with some possible reasons.
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Gearing...The Tremec 3650 in addition with the 3.55 gear ratio work well together. In addition, the car does not weigh much. As you stated 3450lbs. It also makes good torque at 320ft/lbs and continues to makes power to about 6300rpms. It is not always about Hp..sometimes it is the combination of things that can make a car quick.
Not trying to blow sunshine up the MACH1's a$$, just trying to come up with some possible reasons.
Not trying to blow sunshine up the MACH1's a$$, just trying to come up with some possible reasons.
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The truth of the matter is for every bottom 13 stock Mach there is a high 12 stock ls1 car (evidence on here suggest its one is more common than the other.) Neither are 'easy' feats and both take near perfect conditions and a great driver (Evan smith, stopsign, etc ).
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I'll let you know what I run tomorrow in the 1.8 96Z28 LS1/4L60E swapped, LS1 intake stock manifolds into SLP LM1 LT1 Intake 3.23 rear gear. Motor and trans are stock. Its essentially a 2000 SS I used as a donor.
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If you want a realistic comparison of what a particular car can do, why bother talking about "average" times? If I'm trying to figure out if I can beat somebody, I wanna know what they can do on a great day. Stopsign ran a 13.2 with just an H-pipe and a shifter. His first time at the track with that car. So it isn't much of a stretch to imagine that a good driver in good conditions with some practice couldn't equal that time minus the ~5hp that the H-pipe gives.
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If you want a realistic comparison of what a particular car can do, why bother talking about "average" times? If I'm trying to figure out if I can beat somebody, I wanna know what they can do on a great day. Stopsign ran a 13.2 with just an H-pipe and a shifter. His first time at the track with that car. So it isn't much of a stretch to imagine that a good driver in good conditions with some practice couldn't equal that time minus the ~5hp that the H-pipe gives.
I agree completely... When I first had my car I never looked at a stock Mach 1 and laughed.. I assumed it was going to run right with me every time and I needed to be on top of my ****. Maybe I had very little to worry about but I always assume the other driver is going to run their best.