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Old 04-23-2013, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by evangto87
what does a zr1 make for power with full exhaust, intake, tune? Stock sized pulley
Who would do the rest without changing a pulley?
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Originally Posted by evangto87
what does a zr1 make for power with full exhaust, intake, tune? Stock sized pulley
Around 620whp on pump with CAI/Full exhaust. Stock pulley.

To get an apples to apple's comparison you'd have to have the same blower on both engines.
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Originally Posted by Guitar
Who would do the rest without changing a pulley?
because a pulley would push it passed 10psi.
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Around 620whp on pump with CAI/Full exhaust. Stock pulley.

To get an apples to apple's comparison you'd have to have the same blower on both engines.
Have there been an ls3 vettes to do a full exhaust and a novi 2200 on 10lbs?
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by willizm
These augments are getting ridiculous.
Dude, this whole thread is ridiculous. And this whole new argument started with Hio saying his car could/would/should/doesn'tbutimadumbass on whatever boost Heater was running. Then he tried to say he needed a blower matched to the engine, and not the same blower he was running, and blah blah blah blah blah. All I get from this thread is that even automach now makes more sense than Hio.
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Heater

If that's too far or you don't like 1/8th mile, they will more than likely have the fall Dragging Rights at Fayetteville.
I'll be in Florida in June so this sounds much better. I'll definitely be there and I'll try to drag Poppacap with me and some others. By then I'll have the built trans in and a built rear. I want pics with light under the fronts!
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Guitar
Dude, this whole thread is ridiculous. And this whole new argument started with Hio saying his car could/would/should/doesn'tbutimadumbass on whatever boost Heater was running. Then he tried to say he needed a blower matched to the engine, and not the same blower he was running, and blah blah blah blah blah. All I get from this thread is that even automach now makes more sense than Hio.
Hope you do something to that car. Come fall you and I are lining up.
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You act like 1 point of compression is worth 50hp....note the case....nowhere near the case.

You don't know what you are talking about it is a lot more the 1 point.

yep....as Adam stated both stuffed in the wrong gear.....neither by me.

I did that countless times in the 3v I use to have and it never blew up.

Hotrod did a article and a 4.8 that they thought was a 5.3 junkyard motor.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/h...g_bang_theory/

Biggest problem with force inducing these engines are the n/a ring gaps. Once that's right they are are pretty tough.


Maybe it would only make 750...idk I'll never do one and I don't like to speak for other.


I do not like to speak for others aka you are right I know I was reaching with my 800+ claim.

Little different......your all out build to show us the potential of the n/a 4v went to ****.....vs......cars being put in the wrong gear. That's a huge difference actually.

All out? No not at all it is on pump gas, stock heads and cubes. Regardless the motor never blew up it had vavletrain problems. Yet I will not get into excuses on why like you always do.

So now n/a 4v's make 360rwhp with bolt-ons??? What's wrong with yours?

There are a couple making 35x std with boltons.

Ls3's can go well over 400whp with bolt-ons. They should make more than my ls6.

Alot don't live to 1/2 that. Do a search about all the voodoo bullshit to keep those things alive. Running a extra qt of oil, long cool downs, no 5th gear pulls, head cooling mods

Lol with a good tune and smart driving those stock motors last with big power. Don't start with your off the wall bs.

Just as you stated. I hated it when my ls1 got broke. It was a pretty strong one. Ended up good though. That's the sucky part about a pushrod engine. But all engines has their advantages and disadvantages.

As far as this "If you put half the time and effort into as you did the Camaro It would be leaps and bounds faster then the Camaro."

I don't know which will be faster in the end. Notch and I agree the Camaro would've handed the notch it's *** before. But now running at more boost and a ported blower it should be close. The notch has a ton of time in it, at this point the notch has MORE mods.....it's a real engine swap vs replacement engine. The Camaro can do much more than the notch. It handles better and stops better. The notch is more drag oriented. Brakes are lighter on the notch, chassis is lighter on the notch but overall weight the notch will be heavier with a worse front bias than the Camaro. Some of the mods done to the Camaro just can't be done to the notch or would be pointless and possibly make it perform worse. Should be a good run.

I'm sure we will run them at some point....lol
If you sold the ported eaton and put a bigger blower or turbo on the fox. It would fly.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Hope you do something to that car. Come fall you and I are lining up.
You finally growing half a set of nuts and coming to a real track or something?
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Originally Posted by evangto87
I can say my 5.0 modular forged motor would make near 700whp on 10 psi through a novi 2200. Thats with the boss intake. Prob hit 700 with the cobra jet. My motor is also 11:1 and makes a good bit of power without boost. With the exception of the ls7... i dont think any stock longblock would make that power on 10lbs. Unless its turbo...but i too would make more with a turbo setup.

Have a buddy with a 2200 on a Boss motor in his 2011 GT. I think 12# of boost, mt-82 car then, stock manifolds to off rd mid pipe and GT500 axle backs and self tuned. Car has made 747 hp for about a yr and a half now. Heater knows the car and can vouch that I'm not bull shitting.
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i believe you... when i say 700whp... im talking all conservative tuning. As in back down on the timing so it runs forever. Im all set with detonation. But as much as id love to run a novi 2200... this car will forever be a max effort stock motor na car. Its fun to me.
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Originally Posted by Guitar
You finally growing half a set of nuts and coming to a real track or something?
I hope it is "a real track". Maybe it will be my first 11 second run.
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
My friends 01 Z06 made 572rwhp with bolt ons and A&A kit V3-Si (10psi). I know of a few 02+ guys that broke 600rwhp with that kit though I don't remember specifics on their builds.
bolt ons and blower isnt stock blown vs. stock blown.

gt500's hit 700-750rwhp with bolt ons. its not the comparison in my mind.
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by assasinator
bolt ons and blower isnt stock blown vs. stock blown.

gt500's hit 700-750rwhp with bolt ons. its not the comparison in my mind.
Fair point...but Hios car isn't exactly stock here so this was fucked from the start.
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
I'll be in Florida in June so this sounds much better. I'll definitely be there and I'll try to drag Poppacap with me and some others. By then I'll have the built trans in and a built rear. I want pics with light under the fronts!
I'll meet you there too Stoppy and run you. I'll only be on DR's though so I do not think I will be able to match your 60ft.
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Originally Posted by MACHXLR8
I'll meet you there too Stoppy and run you. I'll only be on DR's though so I do not think I will be able to match your 60ft.
Sounds good man I'll probably stay somewhere to break up the drive. Not sure what there is to do up that way.
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Here are some pictures that were taken at Dragging Rights of my car and some others cars.













Packy's car






This is a aerial view from a Quadcopter of the track at the last Dragging Rights.

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Originally Posted by Snickers
Have a buddy with a 2200 on a Boss motor in his 2011 GT. I think 12# of boost, mt-82 car then, stock manifolds to off rd mid pipe and GT500 axle backs and self tuned. Car has made 747 hp for about a yr and a half now. Heater knows the car and can vouch that I'm not bull shitting.

It's not a Boss engine is it, it's just a forged Coyote motor???


Boss engine would make more than a Coyote.
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That last pic was Rockingham
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Sweet! Looking forward to it now.
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Originally Posted by Cammed 02
A few things to consider though. The 6.2L LSA uses the 1.9L blower at 9lbs, GT500 the larger 2.3 Eaton @ a whopping 15lbs. Huge difference.
OK..ZR1 with 2.3 makes 638.
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