It seems the 2011 Mustang Gt's performance was "Inflated" vs 2010 Camaro
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Here's your stock time, not saying the mustang wont ever beat it. The actual record is 12.58 @ 111 from another car, but this video shows an 11.6 run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBpve1Enha8
Best bolt-on time I could find. (Don't know details):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2RySHm-N4Y
Nitrous from Camaro5:
OrangeChevy - 10.28 @ 134.26 mph, (Nitrous/200 shot, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, Skinny's, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6)
These are the records for the year, I think the Mustang has the edge given that the bolt-on cars have longtubes. I think OrangeChevy's car possibly had a cam in it for that 10.28 run but that's what it says on Camaro5's website. This just shows how close they are in terms of performance. The two 5.0 cars that are in the tens are driven about as good as they can be with the lightest drag wheel setup possible, I don't see their times being improved by much.
I don't know any info on what the DA was for the Camaro passes, could have been mineshaft air for all I know.
Even if OrangeChevy's car had a cam in it, I don't see the mustang beating that ET for the same cost.
Cam = $750
Longtubes = $1000
Catback/X-pipe = $500
Nitrous = $750
Drag Wheels = $1500
Total ~$4500 for 10.28 @134
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBpve1Enha8
Best bolt-on time I could find. (Don't know details):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2RySHm-N4Y
Nitrous from Camaro5:
OrangeChevy - 10.28 @ 134.26 mph, (Nitrous/200 shot, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, Skinny's, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6)
These are the records for the year, I think the Mustang has the edge given that the bolt-on cars have longtubes. I think OrangeChevy's car possibly had a cam in it for that 10.28 run but that's what it says on Camaro5's website. This just shows how close they are in terms of performance. The two 5.0 cars that are in the tens are driven about as good as they can be with the lightest drag wheel setup possible, I don't see their times being improved by much.
I don't know any info on what the DA was for the Camaro passes, could have been mineshaft air for all I know.
Even if OrangeChevy's car had a cam in it, I don't see the mustang beating that ET for the same cost.
Cam = $750
Longtubes = $1000
Catback/X-pipe = $500
Nitrous = $750
Drag Wheels = $1500
Total ~$4500 for 10.28 @134
Last edited by Camaro Z; 05-21-2010 at 01:15 PM.
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Here's your stock time, not saying the mustang wont ever beat it. The actual record is 12.58 @ 111 from another car, but this video shows an 11.6 run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBpve1Enha8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBpve1Enha8
Best bolt-on time I could find. (Don't know details):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2RySHm-N4Y
Nitrous from Camaro5:
OrangeChevy - 10.28 @ 134.26 mph, (Nitrous/200 shot, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, Skinny's, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6)
These are the records for the year, I think the Mustang has the edge given that the bolt-on cars have longtubes. I think OrangeChevy's car possibly had a cam in it for that 10.28 run but that's what it says on Camaro5's website. This just shows how close they are in terms of performance. The two 5.0 cars that are in the tens are driven about as good as they can be with the lightest drag wheel setup possible, I don't see their times being improved by much.
I don't know any info on what the DA was for the Camaro passes, could have been mineshaft air for all I know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2RySHm-N4Y
Nitrous from Camaro5:
OrangeChevy - 10.28 @ 134.26 mph, (Nitrous/200 shot, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, Skinny's, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6)
These are the records for the year, I think the Mustang has the edge given that the bolt-on cars have longtubes. I think OrangeChevy's car possibly had a cam in it for that 10.28 run but that's what it says on Camaro5's website. This just shows how close they are in terms of performance. The two 5.0 cars that are in the tens are driven about as good as they can be with the lightest drag wheel setup possible, I don't see their times being improved by much.
I don't know any info on what the DA was for the Camaro passes, could have been mineshaft air for all I know.
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Fair enough but not what he said. That would be a TUNER shop car not Joe Smooes car like he said. Again I'm not all that surprised considering the thousand and thousands of runs so far that the Camaro has had. He said there are lots of examples show me a few more non tuner shop cars like he said.
Not the same mods show a non header car with a 100 shot. I can show you two 100 shot GT's running in the 10's already. Evo went from 11.65 to 10.88 with a 100 shot what do you think would happen with LTs and a 200 shot.
Not the same mods show a non header car with a 100 shot. I can show you two 100 shot GT's running in the 10's already. Evo went from 11.65 to 10.88 with a 100 shot what do you think would happen with LTs and a 200 shot.
The 12.58 pass that doesn't have a video with it, was a private non-shop car. I wasn't posting the videos to brag that the Camaro is the best (probably the opposite actually), I merely posted up the closest videos I could find to match what you were looking for.
Last edited by Camaro Z; 05-21-2010 at 01:55 PM.
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I am sure I could go and do the same to you as far as posts go. But that would be petty. So I wont.
You don't know the story from red, he was actually the one trolling.
I came here originally because I was looking at ALL American made RWD V8s. The 02 WS6 is still my fav pony car. Even over the new 5.0.
I've learned more about Mustangs in this forum then the other mustang forums I'm part of. I also get to learn about other American made cars. So no, my purpose here, or intentions aren't to be trollish. It just hard to pass up when others are being trollish. I'd also take comments like yours a bit more seriously if called out not just Mustang owners, but GM owners being trollish. Because there are a lot of people being trollish in here that are on the other side of the argument.
I see nothing wrong with a little fun debate. If such things get under your skin, maybe it's a situation you need to steer clear from? Instead of demanding people to act like you want them to. I've usually found when someone, in the middle of a discussion, calls another person a name, it usually means that person simply didn't like what the other had to say, and decided in a self defense mechanism, to attack said person with character assassinations.
Your last two posts were trollish BTW. Glass houses and stuff.
If your rant really has nothing to do with trolling, and you just don't like me, or like me a whole lot, I hear my fanclub still has some cards left. But club fees will still cost ya.
You don't know the story from red, he was actually the one trolling.
I came here originally because I was looking at ALL American made RWD V8s. The 02 WS6 is still my fav pony car. Even over the new 5.0.
I've learned more about Mustangs in this forum then the other mustang forums I'm part of. I also get to learn about other American made cars. So no, my purpose here, or intentions aren't to be trollish. It just hard to pass up when others are being trollish. I'd also take comments like yours a bit more seriously if called out not just Mustang owners, but GM owners being trollish. Because there are a lot of people being trollish in here that are on the other side of the argument.
I see nothing wrong with a little fun debate. If such things get under your skin, maybe it's a situation you need to steer clear from? Instead of demanding people to act like you want them to. I've usually found when someone, in the middle of a discussion, calls another person a name, it usually means that person simply didn't like what the other had to say, and decided in a self defense mechanism, to attack said person with character assassinations.
Your last two posts were trollish BTW. Glass houses and stuff.
If your rant really has nothing to do with trolling, and you just don't like me, or like me a whole lot, I hear my fanclub still has some cards left. But club fees will still cost ya.
The funny thing is, I don't say hurtful things. I don't lie, I don't make up facts. So if anything I say is making anyone feel butt-hurt it's because they are overly sensitive to the facts I guess.
I could compile a longer list of things I've said that would make his list look as petty as it is.
I find it actually silly that I am getting the response I did. I'm not doing anything that anyone else isn't doing as well. Other than the character assassinations.
All I have to say I guess is, Here's a blank card. You can all fill in your own names.
I could compile a longer list of things I've said that would make his list look as petty as it is.
I find it actually silly that I am getting the response I did. I'm not doing anything that anyone else isn't doing as well. Other than the character assassinations.
All I have to say I guess is, Here's a blank card. You can all fill in your own names.
Yes, there are other trolls on this site other than you but only one member pops up in each and every Mustang thread I've clicked on.
About your fan club membership cards: . . . grow up.
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Fair enough but not what he said. That would be a TUNER shop car not Joe Smooes car like he said. Again I'm not all that surprised considering the thousand and thousands of runs so far that the Camaro has had. He said there are lots of examples show me a few more non tuner shop cars like he said.
Not the same mods show a non header car with a 100 shot. I can show you two 100 shot GT's running in the 10's already. Evo went from 11.65 to 10.88 with a 100 shot what do you think would happen with LTs and a 200 shot.
Not the same mods show a non header car with a 100 shot. I can show you two 100 shot GT's running in the 10's already. Evo went from 11.65 to 10.88 with a 100 shot what do you think would happen with LTs and a 200 shot.
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Oh, I forgot, . .
No, no, no. Don't worry. I know you are trying to downplay what I did and label it as "petty" but I welcome you to post up any of my previous posts. You will not be able to do the same. Unlike you, I contribute to this site and give some advice and insight on a wide array of topics.
No, no, no. Don't worry. I know you are trying to downplay what I did and label it as "petty" but I welcome you to post up any of my previous posts. You will not be able to do the same. Unlike you, I contribute to this site and give some advice and insight on a wide array of topics.
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That's not necessarily the case. I have very light mods (tune and intake) and have repeatedly beat a 99 Z28 with full bolt-on's from a roll and a stop. When I say full bolt-on's I mean it, you couldn't do another mod to this car with out opening something up. I have also beaten every header/ORY LS1 I have raced. I'm not bragging by any means, my car is not that fast but the 5th gen is a lot faster than people think due to the idiots who have them at the local track trying to recapture their youth of when they had a 69 SS in 1973. They go from a 3 year old accord to a 5th gen and just can't drive it. The ET's on the 5th gens have been dropping as more enthusiasts hit the track.
The excuses that keep coming are hilarious.
The excuses that keep coming are hilarious.
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About your fan club membership cards: . . . grow up.
Baseless accusation. Don't go telling people to grow up, then make lame character assassinations. The self righteousness of your tone is somewhat pretentious.
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Even if OrangeChevy's car had a cam in it, I don't see the mustang beating that ET for the same cost.
Cam = $750
Longtubes = $1000
Catback/X-pipe = $500
Nitrous = $750
Drag Wheels = $1500
Total ~$4500 for 10.28 @134[/quote]
Free tune I guess? No CAI ? No filter? Stock clutch 200 shot [not for long??????]
Mustang
Drop in filter $75 ?
Long Tubes $1000
Catback/Xpipe $500 [your number]
Drag Wheels $1500
Nitrous 200 shot $750
Cam no need $0
Suspension $500
$4350
________________
$4325
ET yet to be determined. But 100 shot and no headers lower ET half a half sec second so an extra 100 and headers the .6 difference
Cam = $750
Longtubes = $1000
Catback/X-pipe = $500
Nitrous = $750
Drag Wheels = $1500
Total ~$4500 for 10.28 @134[/quote]
Free tune I guess? No CAI ? No filter? Stock clutch 200 shot [not for long??????]
Mustang
Drop in filter $75 ?
Long Tubes $1000
Catback/Xpipe $500 [your number]
Drag Wheels $1500
Nitrous 200 shot $750
Cam no need $0
Suspension $500
$4350
________________
$4325
ET yet to be determined. But 100 shot and no headers lower ET half a half sec second so an extra 100 and headers the .6 difference
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Apparently so:
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So, if you see "GT", "Mustang", "Cobra" or anything of the like do you foam at the mouth with over excitement? This is not the first time someone accused you of doing the same:
Threads You Post in and Start Talking Smack:
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So, if you see "GT", "Mustang", "Cobra" or anything of the like do you foam at the mouth with over excitement? This is not the first time someone accused you of doing the same:
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Free tune I guess? No CAI ? No filter? Stock clutch 200 shot [not for long??????]
Mustang
Drop in filter $75 ?
Long Tubes $1000
Catback/Xpipe $500 [your number]
Drag Wheels $1500
Nitrous 200 shot $750
Cam no need $0
Suspension $500
$4350
________________
$4325
ET yet to be determined. But 100 shot and no headers lower ET half a half sec second so an extra 100 and headers the .6 difference
Mustang
Drop in filter $75 ?
Long Tubes $1000
Catback/Xpipe $500 [your number]
Drag Wheels $1500
Nitrous 200 shot $750
Cam no need $0
Suspension $500
$4350
________________
$4325
ET yet to be determined. But 100 shot and no headers lower ET half a half sec second so an extra 100 and headers the .6 difference
I guess we will see! I should have added $200 for a CAI, $500 for a clutch and $300 for a tune. However the Evolution car fried theirs in 12 passes before nitrous as well. The performance between the two is so similar that when it comes down to it which ever car you like you're gonna buy regardless of a couple tenths difference in drag times. I would personally buy an 08+vette before all of the above.
Last edited by Camaro Z; 05-21-2010 at 02:53 PM.
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Any car can beat another car at a given time. I have seen Z06's run high 13's at the track. Until I experience it other wise I will believe that a bolt-on LS1 is about as fast as an LS3 SS. There was nothing more a driver could have done to make the 99 any faster. It would need tires and a stall. Of course then my car would need a tire to be on a level playing field. There is a big difference between an LS3 and L99 SS until you start modding.
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